
111 Places in Phoenix Book, Head Start Faces Elimination from Trump, Eviction Investigation
Season 2025 Episode 94 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
Book "111 Places in Phoenix That You Must Not Miss," Head Start Program, eviction investigation
Travis Swann Taylor speaks on new book called "111 Places in Phoenix That You Must Not Miss." AZHSA Board President and Head Start Program Director-- The Trump administration is considering a budget proposal that would eliminate funding for Head Start. A look at the investigative piece about how so-called “Crime-Free” housing policies are fueling evictions across Arizona.
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111 Places in Phoenix Book, Head Start Faces Elimination from Trump, Eviction Investigation
Season 2025 Episode 94 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
Travis Swann Taylor speaks on new book called "111 Places in Phoenix That You Must Not Miss." AZHSA Board President and Head Start Program Director-- The Trump administration is considering a budget proposal that would eliminate funding for Head Start. A look at the investigative piece about how so-called “Crime-Free” housing policies are fueling evictions across Arizona.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>>> COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, A CLOSER LOOK AT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S TALK OF ELIMINATING FEDERAL FUNDING FOR HEAD START.
ALSO TONIGHT, AN INVESTIGATION INTOE VICKS OF TENANTS ACCUSED OF BEING INVOLVED IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, AND A NEW BOOK CHRONICLES 111 PLACES IN PHOENIX AT THAT ARE NOT TO MISS.
THOSE STORIES AND MORE NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.
>>> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.
I'M TED SIMONS.
THE U.S. SUPREME COURT HEARD ARMS OVER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S COURT ORDER TO END BIRTH RIGHT CITIZENSHIP, IT CLAIMS THAT LOWER COURT JUDGES HAVE EXCEEDED THEIR AUTHORITY BY TEMPORARILY BLOCKING THE PRESIDENT'S ORDER BUT AT ITS CORE THE CASE IS ABOUT BIRTH RIGHT CITIZENSHIP, AS ENSHRINED IN THE CONSTITUTION.
>> THE ORIGINAL MEANING OF THIS CITIZENSHIP CLAUSE EXTENDED CITIZENSHIP TO THE CHILDREN OF FORMER SLAVES, NOT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE UNLAWFULLY OR TEMPORARILY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES.
THE MERITS ARGUMENTS WE ARE PRESENTING TO THE LOWER COURTS ARE COMPELLING.
FOR THOSE REASONS, WE ASK THE COURT TO GRANT THE APPLICATION.
>> THAT POSITION WAS CHALLENGED BY JUSTICE KETA ANJI BROWN JACKSON.
>> THE REAL CONCERN I THINK IS THAT YOUR ARGUMENT SEEMS TO TURN OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM, IN MY VIEW AT LEAST, INTO A CATCH ME IF YOU CAN KIND OF REGIME FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE EXECUTIVE, WHERE EVERYBODY HAS TO HAVE A LAWYER AND FILE A LAWSUIT IN ORDER FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO NOT VIOLATE ITS RIGHTS.
>> THE DISTRICT JUDGE SAYS THERE IS ALSO CONCERN OVER THE LEGALITY OF THE PRESIDENT'S EXECUTIVE ORDER.
OTHER HEADLINES, CAPITOL HILL STILL BEING WORKED ON ON BY THE PUBLIC MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE, THE MAJOR STICKING POINT IS INCREASING STATE AND LOCAL TACK EXEMPTIONS WHICH ARE REFERRED TO ES AS VAULT SALT.
>> EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THE SALT ISSUE IS ONE OF THE BIG ONES THAT WE HAVE TO RESOLVE, ONE OF THE KEY PIECES OF THIS EQUATION TO SORT OF MEET MEET THE EQUILIBRIUM POINT THAT EVERYBODY CAN BE SATISFIED WITH.
NOT EVERYBODY WILL BE DELIGHTED WITH EVERY PROVISION IN THIS BILL BUT EVERYONE CAN BE SATISFIED AND WE'RE VERY, VERY CLOSE TO THAT.
>> AT THIS POINT, THOUGH, CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS ARE VERY MUCH NOT SATISFIED WITH THE OVERALL BILL, WHICH THEY SAY WILL ADD TOO MUCH TO THE DEFICIT.
>>> AND PERHAPS IN THE MOST BE QUESTIONABLE HEADLINE OF THE DAY, A BABY BOY WITH A RARE GENETIC DISORDER MADE MEDICAL HISTORY BY BECOMING THE FIRST PATIENT OF ANY AGE TO RECEIVE CUSTOM GENE EDITING TREATMENT.
THE BOY, NOW 9 AND A HALF MONTHS OLD, IS HOME FROM THE HOSPITAL, DOING WELL AND MEETING DEVELOPMENTAL MILESTONES.
THE DOCTORS INVOLVED IN THE PROCEDURES SAY THAT THE RESULTS SHOW THE POTENTIAL FOR GENE EDITING TO HELP PEOPLE WITH THOUSANDS OF OTHER RARE GENETIC DISEASES.
>> HEAD START IS A FEDERALLY FUNDED PROGRAM AIMED AT HELPING LOW INCOME CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.
THE ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO LUM THOUGHT ALL FUNDING TO HEAD START BUT THEY'RE NO LONG ARE PART OF THE PRESIDENT'S BUG PLAN.
ADVOCATES FOR HEAD START PROGRAMS ARE STILL WORRIED.
JOINING US NOW IS HEAD START ASSOCIATE BOARD PRESIDENT AND HEAD START PROGRAM DIRECTOR EVE DELL REAL.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING SOME ARTWORK FROM HEAD STARTERS.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
I WANT TO START OFF BY ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE'RE CELEBRATING OUR SIXTH ANNIVERSARY IN PROVIDING HIGH-QUALITY SERVICES THROUGHOUT THE U.S. AND IN LIGHT OF THAT WE THOUGHT YOU NEEDED A DINOSAUR.
>> WELL, I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
I KIND OF GAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DEFINITION HERE.
BUT GIVE US A BETTER DEFINITION OF HEAD START.
WHAT IS IT?
BEEN AROUND FOR 60 YEARS.
>> HEAD START IS A HIGH-QUALITY EARLY EDUCATION PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES SERVICES TO CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.
WE CONSIDER IT TO BE ONE OF THE ORIGINAL TWO GEN MODELS THAT NOT ONLY WORKS WITH THE CHILD BUT ALSO WORKING WITH THE FAMILY AND INCIDENT GRAYS EARLY EDUCATION, FAMILY SERVICES -- INTEGRATION, EDUCATION AND FAMILY SERVICES AND CREATES AN VIEWER NOT ONLY FOR THE CHILD TO THRIVE BUT FOR THE FAMILY, AS WELL, AND SPECIFICALLY TARGETS VULNERABLE FAMILIES.
>> AND HOW MANY KIDS IN ARIZONA ARE INVOLVED.
>> 17,000 IN ARIZONA, AND WE KNOW THAT WELL OVER 750,000 THROUGHOUT THE U.S. >> THIS IS FROM INFANCY TO AGE 5?
>> 0 TO 5.
>> OKAY.
LAYOFFS AT THE AGENCY.
WE HEARD THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS NOW BACKING OFF ON ANY IDEAS OF CUTTING, COMPLETELY ELIMINATING FUNDING BUT YOU NEVER KNOW.
SOUNDS LIKE IT'S SAFE FOR NOW.
RFK JR., HEALTH AND HUMAN SECRETARY TESTIFIED THIS WEEK THAT THERE WERE NO PLANS NOW TO CUT HEAD START.
THAT SAID, THERE HAVE BEEN LAYOFFS AT THE AGENCY.
WHAT ARE YOU EXPERIENCING?
>> YEAH.
SO THERE WAS A MASS CONSOLIDATION OF REGIONAL OFFICES THAT WERE ASSIGNED TO HELP IN HUMAN SERVICES.
SO THAT HAD AN IMPACT ON LOCAL HEAD START PROGRAMS BECAUSE WE NOW DO NOT HAVE AN ASSIGNED LOCAL REGIONAL OFFICE THAT HELPS WITH THE OVERSIGHT.
THEY WERE TOUGH PARTNERS FOR US, SO NOT HAVING THAT RESOURCE CREATED A FEW DELAYS WHEN IT COMES TO PAYMENT AND JUST OTHER TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE THAT WE TYPICALLY WOULD RECEIVE FROM THE REGIONAL OFFICE.
>> HAVE THERE BEEN FUNDING FREEZES AS WELL?
>> THERE WERE SOME FUNDING FREEZE THAT WERE EXPERIENCED INITIALLY, BUT AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD NOW WITH SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL SUPPORTS THAT ARE BEING PUT IN PLATES, WE'RE NOTICING A REDUCTION.
BUT THERE'S STILL SOME INCONSISTENCIES WHEN IT COMES TO THAT.
>> YOU MENTIONED SOME DELAYS FROM REGIONAL OFFICES, SOME OF WHICH DON'T EVEN EXIST ANYMORE.
PROVIDERS, WHAT'S THAT DOING TO PROVIDERS?
>> IT DEFINITELY CREATES A SPACE OF CONCERN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE WERE UNSURE AS TO WHAT TO EXPECT.
YOU KNOW, IT HAS BAN IMPACT ON OUR FAMILIES, AS WELL.
AND IT'S TIME OF A LOT OF CONTENTION AND CONCERN FOR MOST HEAD START PROGRAMS.
>> IS IT A TIME FOR A LOT OF CONFUSION, AS WELL, AGAIN RFK JR. SAYS HE DOESN'T KNOW WHY THERE HAVE BEEN FUNDING DELAYS.
IT'S ONE THING TO HAVE FUNDING DELAYS, BUT TO NOT KNOW WHY, IT'S GOTTA BRING UP SOME UNCERTAINTY.
>> AND ACTUALLY WHAT IT IS, IT'S A SPACE OF UNCERTAINTY FOR US, BUT WHAT I CAN SAY AT LEAST ON BEHALF OF THE STATE OF ARIZONA GRANTIES STILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SERVICES AT A HIGH LEVEL OF QUALITY AND CONTINUE TO BE VERY COMMITTED TO THE SERVICE DESPITE THAT.
WE'RE DOING THE BEST THAT WE CAN CONSIDERING THE SPACE THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW.
>> YEAH.
ARE THERE OTHER DOUBTS NON-HEAD START SERVICES THAT YOU DEAL WITH, AND YOU WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THESE SORTS OF THINGS?
WHAT ARE YOU SEEING OUT THERE.
>> WE'RE SEEING JUST AGAIN AN OVERALL CONCERN AND DELAY WITH OTHER THINGS THAT FAMILIES COULD USE.
SO WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HOW REDUCTIONS TO SNAP MIGHT IMPACT OUR FAMILIES.
OUR FAMILIES ARE HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON SNAP SUPPORT, SO IF THAT WAS TO GET REDUCED, AGAIN, THAT ALSO HAS A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR FAMILY, AND OUR FAMILIES AND THEIR ABILITY TO SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES EFFECTIVELY.
>> IT DOES SOUND LIKE FOOD STAMPS ARE ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK AS FAR AS THE LATEST REPUBLICAN PROPOSAL IS CONCERNED.
>> SO WHEN YOU TIE THAT INTO HEAD START, AGAIN, WE PROVIDE NUTRITIONAL SERVICES.
FAMILIES ARE GOING TO HEAVILY RELY ON US AND OUR ABILITY TO CONTINUE PROVIDING SERVICES TO FILL THE GAP AND ANY OF THOSE REDUCTIONS.
>> WHAT ABOUT EDUCATIONAL SERVICES?
HOW ARE THEY AFFECTED.
>> I WOULD SAY THAT THE BIGGEST IMPACT IS ON THE WORKFORCE BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE'RE RELYING ON A HIGH-QUALIFIED WORKFORCE.
AND THIS UNCERTAINTY, AGAIN, I THINK POSITIONS STAFF TO RECONSIDER, RIGHT, IF THIS IS THE AREA THAT THEY WANT TO PURSUE.
BUT IT HAS AN IMPACT OVERALL BECAUSE WE HAVE, AGAIN, OVER -- WE HAVE THINGS THAT ARE UNCERTAIN BUT THEY STILL MOVE FORWARD WITH PROVIDING A HIGH QUALITY EXPERIENCE FOR CHILDREN.
>> YOU MENTIONED 60 YEARS.
HOW IS HEAD START, FROM WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND OR WHAT YOU'VE SEEN, HOW HAS HEAD START GROWN AND DEVELOPED OVER THE YEARS?
>> THERE'S DECADES OF RESEARCH DEMONSTRATING THE IMPACT OF THE PROGRAM, AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT AS THE PROGRAM HAS EXPANDED, IT'S HAD A PHENOMENAL EXPERIENCE IN HELPING BREAK THOSE CYCLES OF POVERTY FOR MANY FAMILIES.
THE EXPERIENCES THAT WE'VE PROVIDED IN EARLY EDUCATION HAVE SERVED AS NATIONAL MODELS FOR EARLY EDUCATION FOR MANY STATES THAT HAVE MOVED FORWARD WITH DEVELOPING PRESCHOOL PROGRAMS.
AND THEN I THINK OVERALL, THE SOCIOECONOMIC IMPACT FOR THE FAMILIES IN GENERAL, WE HAVE FAMILIES THAT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BREAK THAT GENERATIONAL CYCLE OF OVERNIGHT AND TO MOVE ON AND PROVIDE MORE, YOU KNOW, IN THE LONG TERM.
>> SO WITH THAT IN MIND, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT -- IT SEEMS UNCERTAINTY, CONFUSION, IN THE SURE ABOUT THINGS IS THE KEY ISSUE HERE.
IS THAT YOUR MAJOR -- WHAT IS YOUR MAJOR CONCERN ROUTE NOW?
>> IT'S JUST ENSURING THAT SERVICES ARE IN PLACE, BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THAT SHOULD THE HEAD START PROGRAM GET ELIMINATED IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA, THAT'S 17,000 CHILDREN THAT WOULD LOSE THE SERVICE IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE CHILDCARE SERVICES ARE ALREADY LIMITED.
IT WOULD CREATE A CHILDCARE CRISES.
WE RECOGNIZE HERE IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA THERE'S A HUGE WAIT LIST FOR CHILDCARE SUBSIDY AND SUPPORT.
THERE'S A WAIT LIST OF ABOUT 4,000 CHILDREN.
IF THE HEAD START PROGRAM WAS ELIMINATED THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL 17,000 CHILDREN THAT WOULD THOUGHT WAIT LIST.
>> IS THERE ANY INDICATION OF THE STATE LEGISLATURE FILLING IN SOME OF THE GAPS SHOULD HEAD START GET A LITTLE WOBBLY?
>> THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF DISCUSSING.
BUT, AGAIN, THERE'S LIMITED RESOURCES.
SO IT'S A CHALLENGING TIME.
>> YEAH, YEAH.
>> EVE, GREAT WORK.
THANK YOU FOR THE GIFTS, THEY'RE WONDERFUL.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU.
>> CRIME-FREE HOUSING POLICIES ARE FUELING EVICTIONS IN ARIZONA OFTEN WITHOUT POLICE INVOLVEMENT, CRIMINAL CHARGES OR TENANT PROTECTIONS.
A NEW TWO-PART INVESTIGATIVE PIECE BY THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC FINDS, AMONG OTHER THINGS, THAT LANDLORDS CAN EVICT TENANTS FOR ALLEGED CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, EVEN WITHOUT AN ARREST OR AN INVESTIGATION.
TO LEARN MORE, WE WELCOME HANNAH DRYFUSS, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER AT THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC AND YOU'RE THE REPORTER ON THIS ONE.
GREAT WORK.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US HERE.
A CRIME-FREE LEASE ADDENDUM IS THE FOCUS.
WHAT IS THAT?
>> SURE.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT MOST ARIZONANS HAVE PROBABLY NEVER HEARD OF.
WHAT THE CRIME-FREE LEASE ADDENDUM IS A DOCUMENT THAT'S IN ACTUALLY MOST RENTAL AGREEMENTS FOR APARTMENTS ACROSS ARIZONA.
AND WHAT IT DOES -- OR THE IDEA BEHIND IT IS TO DISINCENTIVIZE TENANTS FROM GETTING INVOLVED IN CRIME.
AND MOST TENANTS WHEN THEY SIGN IT, THEY'RE SAYING, I HAVE NO INTENTION TO DO CRIME IN THIS PARTICIPATE, NO PROBLEM.
I'LL SIGN ON THE DOTTED LINE.
WHAT THEY DON'T REALIZE IS WHAT IT ACTUALLY DOES IS THAT IT ENABLES LANDLORDS TO EXPAND THE DEFINITION OF WHAT THEY CONSIDER CRIME SO THAT THINGS THAT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY FALL UNDER THAT CATEGORY COULD ALL OF A SUDDEN BE SUBJECT TO EVICTION.
>> THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY NEXT QUESTION.
HOW IS CRIME DEFINED AND WHO DEFINES IT?
>> THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.
THE CRIME-FREE LEASE ADDENDUM GIVES LANDLORDS THE PO YOU ARE TO DETERMINE WHAT IS CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
NOW, USUALLY YOU WOULD THINK THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE COURTS NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN WHAT'S CONSIDERED CRIMINAL ACTIVITY BUT WHAT YOU SEE WITH THE CRIME-FREE LEASE ADDENDUM IS IT GUS THE LANDLORD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY I THINK WHAT HAPPENED HERE IS A CRIME AND I WILL ISSUE YOU AN MEADY VICKS BECAUSE IT.
>> WHAT ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE MAKING TOO MUCH NOISE?
COULD THAT BE CONSIDERED A CRIME?
>> YES.
THED A DENHAM GIVES LACKS AND BROAD DEFINITIONS FOR WHAT COULD FALL UNDER CRIME ACTIVITY.
PEOPLE FALL RESPONSIBLE FOR NOT ONLY THEIR OWN BEHAVIOR BUT THE BEHAVIOR OF GUESTS OR AFFILIATED PERSON ON THE PROPERTY.
>> IF AN AFFILIATED PERSON OR A GUEST, WHAT IF THEY DO SOMETHING AND THE TENANT DOESN'T KNOW THAT THEY'VE DONE THIS SORT OF THING, IS THE TENANT STILL -- >> YES.
WITH THE CRIME FREE LEASE ADDENDUM THE TENANT IS STILL RESPONSIBLE FOR ACTIVITIES THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE EVEN IF THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT OR -- AND EXTENDS THE ACTIVITY OF ANYWHERE NEAR THE PROPERTY.
>> WHAT KIND OF REMEDY DOES A TENANT HAVE IN THIS KIND OF SITUATION?
>> TENANTS CAN CITE AN MEADY VICKS IN COURT.
HOWEVER, THE POLICY TENDS TO TARGET LOW-INCOME AND BE MINORITY TENANTS WHO USUALLY DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO HIRE THEMSELVES A LAWYER AND FIGHT AN MEADY VICKS NOTICE AND THEY ALSO DON'T KNOW THAT THEY CAN EVEN REPRESENT THEMSELVES IN COURT.
WHEN THEY GET AN EVICTION NOTICE IT'S A 24 HOUR GET OUT OF YOUR APARTMENT NOTICE.
>> I WAS GONNA SAY, WHEN YOU SAID MEADY VICKS, IT'S LIKE, YOU MAKE TOO MUCH NOISE, YOU'RE GONE.
>> EXACTLY, ONE OF THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT MAKES THIS TYPE OF EVICTION SO HARMFUL IS THAT IT IS CONSIDERED AN IMMEDIATE EVICTION, ONCE A LANDLORD DETERMINES, AND IT CAN BE INDEPENDENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, THAT A CRIME HAS TAKEN PLACE.
THEY CAN ISSUE A 24-HOUR NOTICE FOR THAT PERSON TO GET OFF THE PROPERTY.
AND FREQUENTLY THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEFEND THEMSELVES IN COURT.
>> SO YOUR INVESTIGATION -- AND AGAIN, THIS IS -- BEFORE I GET TO THAT, STATE LAW.
WHERE DOES STATE LAW FIT INTO ALL THIS?
>>> SURE.
THERE IS AN ARIZONA STATUTE THAT SAYS THAT PEOPLE CANNOT COMMIT CRIME ON ARIZONA PROPERTIES.
AND IT DOES SPECIFY THE SAME TYPES OF CRIME THAT ARE SPECIFIED IN THE LEASE ADDENDUM.
HOWEVER, THE LEASE ADDENDUM GOES BEYOND WHAT ARIZONA LAW SAYS IN TERMS OF WHAT'S NOT ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY AND ALLOWS LANDLORD AS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT MORE DISCRETION TO DETERMINE WHAT IS AND IS NOT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
>> AND THE LEASE ADDENDUM STATE LAW, BASICALLY THEY DON'T INTERSECT?
>> THEY OVERLAP, BUT THE LEASE ADDENDUM TAKES IT FURTHER THAN STATE LAW.
>> WHERE DID THIS -- AS I READ YOUR STORY, THIS LEASE ADDENDUM KIND OF CAME FROM A FORMER POLICE OFFICER, AM I CORRECT?
>> YEAH.
EXACTLY.
THIS MOVEMENT, WHICH IS NOW IN HUNDREDS OF CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, NOT JUST IN ARIZONA, BUT ALL OVER THE PLACE, STARTED AND WAS BORN IN MESA, ARIZONA BY A NOW RETIRED POLICE OFFICER NAMED OFFICER TIM BARRACK.
>> AND I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD SAY IF YOU'RE A LANDLORD YOU DON'T WANT CRIME BEING COMMITTED ON YOUR PROPERTY OR YOUR TENANTS INVOLVED IN CRIME BUT THERE'S SUCH A THING AS DUE PROCESS THAT I WOULD THINK WOULD BE AT PLAY HERE AS WELL.
I GUESS THE BOTTOMLINE IS, IS THIS WORKING?
IS CRIME BEING REDUCED IN AREAS WHERE THESE LEASE ADDENDUMS ARE ENFORCED?
>> WE DECIDED TO TACKLE THAT QUESTION USING DATA AND ACTUAL ANALYSIS.
WHAT I DID WAS AN EXTENSIVE EFFORT OF PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST TO CITIES ACROSS ARIZONA TO FIND OUT WHICH CITIES IMPLEMENT THESE POLICIES, WHEN THEY STARTED IMPLEMENTING THEM, AND THEN WHAT WE USED IS FBI CRIME STATISTICS TO ANALYZE IF THESE POLICIES WERE ACTIVELY EFFECTIVELY REDUCING CRIME.
AND WHAT WE FOUND OUT IS THEY ARE NOT.
THESE POLICIES DO NOT ACTUALLY REDUCE CRIME.
I THINK EVERYONE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DON'T WANT CRIME ON YOUR RENTAL PROPERTY, ABOUT YOU THIS FINDING HAS TO MAKE US QUESTION.
>> AND YOU MENTIONED PEOPLE OF COLOR WERE TARGETED MORE THAN MOST?
>> THAT'S ANOTHER ANALYSIS WE DID WITH THE DATA.
WE LOOKED AT DEMOGRAPHIC DATA IN PLACES THAT DO IMPLEMENT THESE POLICIES ASK WE ACTUALLY WENT DOWN TO THE BLOCK BY BLOCK LEVEL IN FOUR ARIZONA CITIES TO SEE WHO IS MOST LIKELY TO BE SUBJECTED TO THESE POLICIES.
AND WE FOUND THAT YOU'RE TWO TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE A BLACK BE TENANT TO BE TARGETED BY THESE POLICIES.
>> BUT IT RAISES THE QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT ANY TENANT IN ANY PROPERTY REALLY EVEN KNOWS WHAT -- I MEAN, EVERYONE'S LOOKED AT LEASE AGREEMENTS, AND YOUR EYES START GLAZING, WHERE DO I SIGN, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE YOUNGER AND NOT AS EXPERIENCED IN THESE SORTS OF THINGS.
DO THESE FOLKS EVEN KNOW THESE LEASE ADDENDUMS EXIST?
>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
ONE OF THE FAMILIES WHO I SPOKE TO AND FEATURED IN THE STORY, THE JOHNSONS, WHEN THEY WERE SIGNING THEIR LEASE, THEY SAW SOMETHING IN THE AGREEMENT ABOUT NOT, YOU KNOW, STEALING -- DEALING DRUGS FROM THEIR APARTMENT AND HAVING SEX WORKERS IN THEIR APARTMENT.
THEY'RE A FAMILY.
THEY HAVE FOUR KIDS.
THEY WERE LIKE, OF COURSE, THIS DOESN'T APPLY TO US.
THEY HAD NO IDEA WHAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY SIGNING AWAY WAS THEIR RIGHT TO DUE PROCESS IF THEY WERE FACED WITH AN IMMEDIATE EVICTION.
>> AGAIN, GREAT WORK ON THIS.
BUT LAST QUESTION, I KNOW IN YOUR STORY WE TALKED ABOUT THE PERSON WHO CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA AND ONE OF THE REASONS BEHIND THE IDEA IS THAT IT FREES LAW ENFORCEMENT TO TAKE ON MORE SERIOUS CRIME AS OPPOSED TO A PERSON WHO'S MAKING TOO MUCH NOISE AND THESE SORTS OF THINGS.
DID YOU MIND THAT IN YOUR RESEARCH?
>> THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION.
IT DOES -- I MEAN, WHAT IT DOES IS IT ENABLES LANDLORDS TO BECOME -- TO ACT IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CAPACITY ASK THAT HAS A LOT OF PROBLEMS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE AN AVERAGE -- AN AVERAGE CITIZEN IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IMPLEMENTING, YOU KNOW, CRIMINAL LAW.
AND SO IT KIND OF HAS A TRICKLE-DOWN EFFECT OF PROBLEMS WHEN YOU EMPOWER PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT TRAINED IN CRIMINAL LAW AUTHORITIESMENT TO BE DOING THAT JOB.
AND IN FACT, IT DOESN'T REDUCE CRIME ON THESE PROPERTIES.
SO EVEN IF YOU DO SEE POLICE OFFICERS ATTENDING TO CRIME ELSEWHERE, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THERE WILL BE LESS CRIME ON THESE PROPERTIES BECAUSE OF THESE POLICIES.
>> YEAH.
HANNAH DRYFUSS, AGAIN, ARIZONA REPUBLIC, AZCENTRAL.COM.
GREAT WORK, GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.
THANKS FOR SHARING.
WE APPRECIATE IT.
>> SURE, THANK YOU.
SWAN >>> THERE'S A NEW BOOK OUT THAT IS BEING CALLED A TRAVEL GUIDE WITH LOCALS IN MIND.
THE BOOK IS ACTUALED "111 PLACES IN PHOENIX THAT YOU MUST NOT MISS," AND IT DIE DIVES INTO THE HEART OF PHOENIX TO FIND ITS BEST-KEPT SECRETS, NATURAL WONDERS AND INSPIRING PEOPLE.
TRAVIS SWANN, CONGRATULATIONS ON THE BOOK.
WHY DID YOU WRITHE WRITE THIS?
THIS IS AN INTERESTING IDEA.
WHERE DID IT COME FROM?
>> THE FAMILY-OWNED PUBLISHING COMPANY IN GERMANY, THEY HAVE THOUSANDS OF BOOKS -- HUNDREDS OF BOOKS IN THE SERIES FOR CITIES ALL OVER THE WORLD.
I'M 111.
>> WOW.
111, I GET, THAT BUT FROM THE PUBLISHING COMPANY?
>> YES.
IT IS.
HOW DID YOU DECIDE, 111 IS A LOT, SO YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO TOO MUCH ELIMINATION BUT EVENTUALLY SOMEBODY HAS GOTTA GO.
>> THE CONTENTS ARE DIVERSE, GEOGRAPHICALLY AND CONTENT.
HAVE YOU SOME PASHES RESTAURANTS, THAT PLAYS INTO THE ELECTION, AND THE OTHER IS BEEN TO EVERY SINGLE PLACE IN THE BOOK SO FILTERING THROUGH WHAT I THINK OTHER PEOPLE WOULD LIKE, WHAT I LIKE.
>> LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THESE THINGS, AND LET'S START WITH A SILVER SERVICE.
A BATTLESHIP SILVER SERVICE FROM THE USS ARIZONA.
WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT HERE?
>> THIS IS SPECIAL TO ME.
I SERVE IN THE U.S. NAVY, SO WHEN I FOUND THIS, THIS WAS LIKE FANTASTIC.
IT'S THE FORMAL SILVER SERVICE FROM THE USS ARIZONA AND TAKEN OFF THE SHIP IN JANUARY OF' 41 BEFORE THE ARIZONA WAS SUNK IN PEARL HARBOR.
SO THEY TOOK THE SERVICE OFF.
SO IT'S FIRST ON THE SHIP IN 1919.
SO IT WAS THERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
>> AND THAT'S AT THE CAPITOL MUSEUM, IS IT NOT?
>> IT IS.
LIKE 60 SOMETHING PIECES AND ALL ON DISPLAY.
>> ISN'T THAT SOMETHING.
LET'S KEEP IT MOVING HERE.
BERNIE THE ROBOT.
I THINK BERNIE IS JUST LIKE A FEW BLOCKS FROM HERE, RIGHT?
>> HE IS.
I'VE MET PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKED DOWNTOWN FOR DECADES AND NEVER SEEN HIM.
YOU HAVE TO LOVE THAT THE ADDRESS IS 111 MONROE.
>> WELL, YOU HAD TO GET THAT IN THERE.
AND THERE'S AN IDEA BEHIND THIS, ISN'T THERE?
>> THERE IS.
THERE IS.
SO THE SCULPTOR DOUG BOYD IS -- HE FOUND HIMSELF HIKING THE SIERRA NEVADA MOUNTAINS AND AND HE NOTICED ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT HE WAS TIED TO HIS PHONE, USING GPS, TAKING PHOTOS INSTEAD OF ENJOYING THE BEAUTY OF THE NATURE THAT HE WAS IN.
SO HE THOUGHT, WHAT IF ROBOTS OR WHAT IF HUMANS BECAME ROBOTS AND ROBOTS DISCOVERED THINGS THAT HUMANS HAD ABANDONED.
SO IT'S KIND OF HIS MESSAGE TO PEOPLE TO PUT DOWN THE DEVICE ONCE IN A WHILE AND CONNECT WITH OTHER HUMANS AND NATURE.
>> IT'S A ROW -- IF A ROBOT CAN READ A BOOK, YOU CAN READ A BOOK.
>> EXACTLY.
>> OKAY, LIPS UPTOWN ICE CREAM.
AN ICE CREAM SHOP?
WHAT'S THIS ABOUT.
>> THE OWNER AND FLAVOR CREATOR RICH DOLAN IS BRILLIANT.
FLAVORS THAT ARE FROM CHILDHOOD MEMORIES, STRAWBERRY CONVICTION OR NUTTER BIRTH AND FLAVORS LIKE FIG AND GOAT CHEESE, MY PERSONAL FAVORITE.
BUT THEY'RE ALL LACTOSE FREE INSIDE AND THIS IS UPTOWN ICE CREEK?
>> SEVENTH AVENUE.
>> IS IT THE MELROSE AREA?
>> YEAH.
>> ALL RIGHT.
PENSKE RACING MUSEUM.
WE'VE GOT UNDERY CARS NEXT.
AFTER ICE CREAM, WE'VE GOT INDY CARS.
>> AGAIN, IT'S VERY DIVERSE.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE PLACES THAT YOU'RE NOT JUST GONNA HAPPEN UPON.
YOU HAVE TO BE THERE, SOMEONE TELLS YOU ABOUT IT OR YOU'RE GOING TO BUY A CAR FROM PENSKE.
SOME OF THESE CARS WON THE INDY 500 AND RANGE FROM FORD TO PORSHA AND IT'S A VERY SMALL MUSEUM, A NUMBER OF RACE CARS, ENGINES, TROPHIES.
FORD TO PORSCHE.
>> WHERE IS IT LOCATED?
>> IN SCOTTSDALE.
>> AND I KNOW WHERE THIS IS, OUR NEXT IS A SWARR AO, IT'S A BOTANICAL GARDENS RIGHT?
>> YES.
THEY HAVE ONE, THIS IS A VERY RARE SAWARRO, THERE'S ONLY ONE IN EVERY 200,000 THAT ARE CRESTED.
I'VE ONLY SEEN THREE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, AND THE GARDEN HAS ONE.
SO IF YOU GO, ASK ABOUT IT.
>> YEAH.
AN ICONIC FIGURE THERE.
THE LAST ONE IS INTERESTING.
STEVEN SPEILBERG'S DIRECTORIAL DEBUT AND THIS WAS AT PHOENIX THEATER?
WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?
>> PHOENIX THEATER COMPANY.
SO THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A VERY, VERY, VERY LONG TIME.
STEVEN SPEILBERG WHEN HE WAS 17 DEBUTED HIS VERY FIRST FILM AT WHAT WAS THEN LITTLE PHOENIX THEATER, AND IF -- WHEN YOU GET TO THE THEATER AT THE BOX OFFICE, THIS HALLWAY TO THE RIGHT, THERE'S A BIG PICTURE OF STEVEN AS WE KNOW HIM TODAY AND TELLS THE STORY HOW HIS FIRST FILM WAS DEBUTED THERE.
AND THIS HALLWAY LEADING TO THE THEATERS, THEY LIGHT UP RED ON PERFORMANCE NIGHTS.
IT'S SO KIND OF A RED CARPET EXPERIENCE.
>> YEAH.
AND AS FAR AS SPEILBURG, YOU'VE GOT LIKE THREE AND A HALF MINUTES OF A SCIENCE FICTION FILM FROM 1964.
HE WAS A KID.
>> YEAH.
YEAH.
DEFINITELY.
AND THOSE ARE THE ONLY FEW MINUTES THAT STILL EXIST YOU CAN SEE THEM ONLINE.
AND LATER ON HE PUT OUT CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND, AND IF YOU SEE THE FOOTAGE FROM HIS ORIGINAL MOVIE, YOU CAN SEE SOME THINGS THAT INSPIRED CLOSE ENCOUNTERS.
>> WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE FROM THIS BOOK?
>> GO AND EXPLORE YOUR OWN BACKYARD.
THAT'S WHAT THE BOOK IS FOR.
EVEN LOCALS MIGHT NOT KNOW ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS.
>> GOOD WORK.
TRAVIS SWANN, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
THAT'S IT FOR NOW.
I'M TED SIMONS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.
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