>> COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON: WE'LL GET THE LATEST ON THE ON- AGAIN, OFF-AGAIN TARIFF TRADE-WAR WITH CHINA... ALSO TONIGHT: ENCOURAGING INFORMATION ABOUT ADVANCEMENTS IN TREATING THE BLOOD CANCER MULTIPLE MYEOLOMA... AND WE'LL HEAR FROM SRP ON THEI CONTINUING PROJECT TO PROVIDE ELECTRICITY TO HOMES ON THE NAVAJO NATION.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE, NEXT, O ARIZONA HORIZON.

>> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M TED SIMONS.

A SUPERIOR COURT JUDGE TODAY SENT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S FAK ELECTORS CASE BACK TO A GRAND JURY TO RECONSIDER IF CRIMINAL CHARGES SHOULD INEED BE BROUGHT THE JUDGE AGREED WITH THE DEFENSE THAT IMPORTANT INFORMATION WAS LEFT OUT WHEN THE CASE WAS INITIALLY PRESENTE TO THE GRAND JURY, WHICH WOUND UP INDICTING 18 PEOPLE FOR CREATING A SLATE OF FAKE ELECTORS AS A WAY TO KEEP DONALD TRUMP IN OFFICE AFTER TRUMP LOST THE 2020 PRESIDENTIA ELECTION.

THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE SAYS IT WILL APPEAL TODAY'S DECISION.

OTHER HEADLINES: THE GREER FIRE IN NORTHEASTERN ARIZONA HAS NOW BURNED MORE THAN 20,000 ACRES AND COUNTING.

THE FIRE IS 38% CONTAINED, AND FIRE OFFICIALS ARE ENCOURAGED THAT CONTAINMENT LINES ARE HOLDING, AND THE GOVERNOR, OVER THE WEEKEND DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY RELEASING STATE FUNDS FOR WHAT THE GOVERNOR APPLAUDED AS A COORDINATED EFFORT.

HAS WORKED AHEAD AND MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN THE ABILITY TO CONTROL THIS FIRE.

I KNOW WE'RE NOT OUT OF THE WOODS YET, BUT HUGE TESTAMENT TO ALL THE WORK, THE COORDINATION, THE PARTNERSHIP THAT GOES ON ALL THE TIME LEADING TO THIS POINT.

NO INJURIES HAVE BEEN REPORTED BUT STRUCTURES HAVE BURNED AND EVACUATIONS ARE IN PLACE FOR TH TOWNS OF GREER, EAGER AND SOUTH FORK.

THE U.S. SUPREME COURT TODAY RULED THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION CAN REMOVE DEPORTATION PROTECTIONS FOR NEARLY 350,000 VENEZUELAN IMMIGRANTS.

THOSE IMMIGRANTS HAD BEEN ALLOWED TO STAY IN THE U.S.

UNDER A HUMANITARIAN PROGRAM CALLED "TEMPORARY PROTECTED STATUS."

BUT THE HIGH COURT RULED THAT ADMINISTRATION CAN, FOR NOW, EN THE PROGRAM'S DEPORTATION PROTECTIONS PENDING APPEAL OF THE CASE.

THE JUSTICES DID SAY THAT SOME INDIVIDUAL IMMIGRANTS CAN STILL BRING LEGAL CHALLENGES INCLUDING IF THE GOVERNMENT TRIES TO CANCEL THEIR WORK PERMITS.

TODAY'S DECISION FOLLOWS A RULING LAST WEEK IN WHICH THE HIGH COURT BLOCKED THE ADMINISTRATION'S USE OF THE ALIEN-ENEMIES ACT TO DEPORT IMMIGRANTS.

THE JUSTICES SENT THAT CASE BAC TO AN APPEALS COURT.

THE UNITED STATES AND CHINA RECENTLY ANNOUNCED A 90-DAY PAUSE ON RECIPROCAL TARIFFS.

THE AGREEMENT CAME AS THE U.S. WAS MOVING TOWARD A SELF-INFLICTED RECESSION AND POSSIBLE SUPPLY-CHAIN MELTDOWN.

FOR MORE ON THE IMPACT OF THE TRADE TRUCE ON THE ECONOMY IN GENERAL AND SUPPLY CHAINS IN PARTICULAR, WE WELCOME DALE ROGERS, FROM ASU'S W.P.

CAREY SCHOOL OF BUSINESS.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

>> YOU'RE A SUPPLY CHAIN GURU.

SEEMS LIKE THIS HAPPEN ADMISSION YEARS AGO BUT IT WAS ONLY LAST WEEK.

NEIGHBORHOOD DAY PAUSE ON -- >> IT'S NOT REALLY A 90-DAY.

IT'S A 90-DAY PAUSE FROM THE 145 AND THE CHINA SIDE WAS 125.

AND NOW WE'RE DOWN 30 ON CHINESE PRODUCTS AND 10% ON U.S. PRODUCTS.

AND SO INTO -- INTO CHINA.

AND I THINK THAT IT'S JUST THE BEGINNING OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION BACKING DOWN.

BECAUSE IF THEY STAY WITH 30%, THAT STILL IS BASICALLY STOPPING MOST EVERYTHING WE BUY FROM CHINA.

AND IT'S A DISASTER.

YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT LOCAL, SMALL FIRMS, THEY'RE MOSTLY SMALL FIRMS, HERE IN THE PHOENIX AREA.

THERE'S ONE IN CHANDLER, I'M THINKING OF RIGHT NOW, WHO SELLS TOYS, AND THEY HAVEN'T ORDERED ANYTHING, AND THEY ARE THEIR ONLY FACTORY IS IN CHINA.

AND THEY HAVEN'T ORDERED ANYTHING FOR TWO MONTHS.

AND IF THEY ORDER STUFF TODAY, WHICH THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO, NOT AT 30%, THEY CAN'T MAKE MONEY.

IT WOULD BE A MONTH, MONTH AND A HALF BEFORE THIS STUFF GETS HERE.

>> THAT'S A DIFFICULT THING.

YOU KIND OF SEE WHERE THINGS ARE, BUT MOSTLY WHERE THINGS ARE GOING.

HOW DO YOU KNOW WHERE THINGS ARE GOING, FROM 145 IT GOES DOWN TO, WHAT, 30, AND FROM 135 IT GOES TO 10 AND THEN COULD BOUNCE BACK UP AGAIN.

>> YEAH, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE THE TARIFFS ARE GOING.

MY BELIEF THOUGH IS -- I'M MORE OPTIMISTIC THAN I WAS LAST TIME I TALKED TO YOU BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE GONNA BACK DOWN.

BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T, REPUBLICANS IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WILL BE SO UNPOPULAR, AND THERE'S ALREADY PEOPLE YELLING AT THEM.

WALMART ANNOUNCED AT A CONFERENCE CALL LAST WEEK WE'RE GOING TO RAISE OUR PRICES, AND TRUMP WENT CRAZY OVER THE WEEKEND.

>> HE BASICALLY TOLD THEM, WHY DON'T YOU EAT THE PRICES.

>> RIGHT, AND YOU CAN'T AT 30%.

YOU JUST CAN'T.

THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH MARGIN.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS -- A LOT OF THE POLICYMAKERS DON'T UNDERSTAND IS HOW SLIM THOSE MARGINS REALLY ARE.

IT MIGHT SEEM LIKE A LOT, BUT YOU END UP GETTING RID OF A LOT OF THAT MARGIN AS IT MOVES FORWARD IN THE SUPPLY CHAIN.

>> SO 30 AND 10 RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S THE U.S. TARIFFS AND CHINA -- CHINA TARIFFS ON U.S. FALLS TO 10.

WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE ECONOMY?

>> WELL, IT'S THE WORSE TARIFFS THAT WE'VE HAD IN OVER 100 YEARS.

SO IT'S GOING TO CRUSH THINGS.

ESPECIALLY IN A TIME WHERE WE'RE MORE DEPENDENT -- YOU KNOW, WE'VE BUILT THIS GLOBAL -- THESE GLOBAL SUPPLY CHAINS.

WE'RE MORE DEPENDENT ON THE OUTSIDE WORLD THAN WE'VE EVER BEEN.

>> YOU MENTIONED TOYS.

I WOULD IMAGINE LAPTOPS, ELECTRONICS, TECH STUFF.

>> ALL THAT STUFF, YEAH.

IT'S CRAZY.

I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE WAY ELECTRONICS ARE SOLD IN BRAZIL, YOU BASICALLY HAVE TO MAKE THEM THERE OR THEY'RE UNAFFORDABLE.

BRAZIL HAS HAD BASICALLY 100% TARIFF ON ELECTRONICS FOR A LONG TIME.

AND WHENEVER I WOULD HAVE BRAZILIAN EXECUTIVES COMING UP TO ARIZONA, YOU KNOW, HE'S GO TO BEST BUY AND ALL OF THE PLACES, APPLE STORE, BUYING STUFF, BECAUSE IF THEY BUY IT IN BRAZIL, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET AS GOOD OF A PRODUCT AND IT'S GOING TO COST TWICE AS MUCH.

>> SO BASICALLY WE CAN CALL IT A PAUSE OR A TRUCE OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT HERE, IT'S A REDUCTION FOR 90 DAYS.

BUT IT MIGHT GO BACK UP.

WHAT HAPPENS IF IT GOES BACK UP >> WELL, I KIND OF DON'T THINK IT CAN.

I KIND OF THINK THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP IS GONNA ANNOUNCE SOME SORT OF VICTORY, THAT MIGHT A REAL VICTORY OR NOT A REAL ONE, AND WE'LL SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE REALLY ARE GOING TO TRADE WITH CHINA AND KNOCK THEM DOWN.

MY GUESS IS HE'S GONNA STICK WITH 10%, WHICH IS REALLY STILL TOO HIGH IN MY OPINION BUT IT'S A LOT BETTER THAN 145 OR 30.

>> JUST THE ACTIONS OF MAKING TO 145 AND BRINGING IT BACK DOWN TO 30 AND CONSIDERING THAT'S A PAUSE AND A TRUCE AND A WIN OF SOME KIND, A WIN/WIN SITUATION.

HAS THE DAMAGE ALREADY BEEN DONE?

>> SOME OF IT ALREADY HAS BEEN DONE.

THE THING IS THAT WE REALLY DON'T SEE THE EFFECT OF THE TARIFFS YET.

WHAT I'VE BEEN TELLING EVERYBODY, I THINK IT'S AUGUST BEFORE WE REALLY SEE IMPACT TO THE TARIFFS -- IMPACT OF THE TARIFFS.

MIGHT BE LATE JULY, BUT AUGUST, BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH STUFF WE BROUGHT IN EARLY AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, MOVING THROUGH THOSE INVENTORIES.

>> I GOTTA TELL YOU THAT I THINK IT WAS FRIDAY, CONSUMER SENTIMENT SURVEY CAME OUT FOR CONSUMER SENTIMENT, IT'S AT NEAR RECORD LOWS.

>> RIGHT.

>> THAT'S A LAGGING INDICATOR AS WELL; IS IT NOT?

>> YEAH.

AND, YOU KNOW, TED, IT'S CRAZY.

THERE'S A HISTORY LESSON HERE, I THINK, AND I'LL TRY TO DO THIS QUICKLY.

1930, THE U.S. WAS REALLY WORRIED ABOUT USING THEIR AGRICULTURAL SECTOR.

WE WERE GETTING IMPORTS FROM OTHER PLACES.

NOT NEARLY AS MUCH AS WE GET NOW, BY THE WAY.

AND THEY SAID, WE CAN'T -- YOU KNOW, THERE'S THIS INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION, PEOPLE ARE MOVING OFF FARMS.

THERE'S THE TRAGEDIES.

THE DEMOCRATS BACK THEN, PLUS THE FARM STATE REPUBLICANS PUT TARIFFS ON THAT AREN'T AS BIG AS WHAT WE'VE GOT IN CHINA RIGHT NOW, AND THAT REALLY MOVES US INTO THE GREAT DEPRESSION.

AND HERE WE ARE ALMOST 100 YEARS LATER, AND WE'RE DOING THE EXACT SAME THING BECAUSE WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT LOSING MANUFACTURING WHEN REALLY ECONOMIES EVOLVED.

WE WERE AGRICULTURAL, WE WERE MANUFACTURING, AND NOW WE'RE REALLY SERVICES AND INNOVATION AND SOMETIMES WE KIND OF FORGET HOW THINGS CAN EVOLVE.

>> LAST QUESTION ON THIS, WHAT HAPPENS TO STORAGE WHEN YOU GOT STUFF THERE, THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE EMPTY SHIPS CROSSING THE OCEAN, AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SHIPS CARRYING MORE STUFF?

WHAT'S THE IMPACT THERE?

>> WELL, IT -- YOU KNOW, WE'RE PRETTY GOOD AT MANAGING THAT.

YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME HICCUPS THERE, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, WE'RE HANDLING WAREHOUSING, AND THERE'S COMPANIES, LIKE A COMPANY CALLED FLEXE THAT DOES SORT OF, YOU KNOW, VERY FLEXIBLE WAREHOUSING.

YOU CAN EXPAND OR CONTRACT.

WE'RE PRETTY GOOD AT THAT.

BUT IT IS AN ISSUE, AND CERTAINLY PLANNING THAT STUFF COMING IN IS AN ISSUE.

>> SO BOTTOMLINE, YOU SEEM TO THINK WHEN BACK-TO-SCHOOL SALES START HITTING, WATCH OUT.

>> WE'RE GONNA SEE SOME PROBLEMS.

BUT I ALSO THINK THAT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, WE'RE GONNA BACK DOWN.

>> INTERESTING.

ALL RIGHT, DALE ROGERS.

>> YOU CAN CALL ME ON THAT.

>> I WILL.

WE'LL HAVE YOU BACK HERE AND RUN THE TAPE.

DALE ROGERS, W.P.

CAREY SCHOOL OF BUSINESS.

ALWAYS A PLEASURE.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

>> GOOD TO SEE YOU.

RESEARCHERS AT MAYO CLINIC ARIZONA HAVE DEVELOPED NEW TREATMENTS FOR THE BLOOD CANCER MULTIPLE MYELOMA.

THE ADVANCEMENTS ARE EXTENDING LIFE SPANS AND OFFERING HOPE TO PATIENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES.

JOINING US NOW IS DR. RAFAEL FONSECA, THE CHIEF INNOVATION OFFICER AT MAYO CLINIC ARIZONA.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> WHAT IS MULTIPLE MYELOMA?

>> IT'S A CANCER THAT RISES FROM THE MYELOMA IS A BLOOD CANCER.

IT'S A CANCER THAT RESULTS FROM THE ABNORMAL GROWTH OF THE CELLS THAT NORMALLY WOULD PROTECT THOSE BY PRODUCING ANTIBODIES.

THE CELLS CAN GO ROGUE, AND IF THEY GROW IN AN EXCESSIVE WAY, THAT'S WHAT LEADS TO THE CANCER FORM, WHICH IS MYELOMA AND PATIENTS CAN HAVE A NUMBER OF SYMPTOMS LIKE DESTRUCTIVE BONES, ANEMIA AND ALSO PROBLEMS WITH THEIR KIDNEYS.

THERE'S ABOUT 5,000 NEW DIAGNOSES A YEAR IN THE UNITED STATES.

IT'S THE SECOND MOST COMMON BLOOD CANCER AFTER LYMPHOMA.

>> RISK FACTORS INVOLVED?

>> MOST IT IS JUST GENERAL, AGE OF COURSE A FACTOR.

IT'S SLIGHTLY MORE COMMON IN MEN.

IT'S TWICE AS COMMON IN INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE AFRICAN-AMERICAN.

BUT BY AND LARGE, THERE'S NOTHING YOU SHOULD DO OR STOP DOING THAT WOULD MAKE IT A LIKELY TRIGGER.

>> NOTHING ENVIRONMENTAL SO FAR >> THERE'S A FEW FACTORS BUT NOT MAJOR PLAYERS.

>> THE TREATMENT.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT YOUR TREATMENT, BUT HERETOFORE WHAT WAS THE TREATMENT FOR MULTIPLE MYELOMA?

>> WHEN I STARTED TRAINING IT WAS OLD-FASHIONED CHEMOTHERAPY.

THAT WAS FIVE YEARS AGO WHEN WE WERE USING PILLS AND CONSIDERING IT IN A CHEMOTHERAPY CATEGORY.

EVER SINCE WE'VE COME A LONG WAY.

WE BRING SMALL MOLECULES TO START THE TREATMENT AND MOST IMPORTANTLY IMMUNOTHERAPY.

>> IMMUNOTHERAPY IS A BIG DEAL HERE?

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

PEOPLE HAD A HARD TIME AT BEGINNING TO KNOW HOW TO HARDEN THE PERSON'S IMMUNE SYSTEM TO FIGHT BACK AGAINST THE CANCER.

CANCER IS WHEN OUR IMMUNE SYSTEM DOESN'T RECOGNIZE THE CELLS AS CANCER.

SO NOW THROUGH TECHNOLOGY, WE CAN PRIME THE PERSON'S IMMUNO CELLS TO GO AND FIGHT BACK SPECIFICALLY AGAINST THIS CANCER.

>> THERE'S SO MANY ADVANCES HERE FROM MAYO CLINIC ARIZONA BUT WAS THERE AN "AHA MOMENT" IN TERMS THIS DEVELOPMENT?

>> YEAH.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THE "AHA MOMENT" IS A COMBINATION OF THINGS AND THAT COMES FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS WHERE WE HAVE SEEN OVER 20 FDA APPROVALS FOR VARIOUS TREATMENT OF MYELOMA AND SOON REALIZED THAT ONE OF THEM ALONE WOULD NOT DO THE TRICK.

WE HAVE TO CREATE A TEAM.

THROUGH A TEAM APPROACH, MEANING THAT WE COMBINE SOME OF THE DRUGS OR TREATMENT THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, WE CAN PUT A LARGE NUMBER OF PATIENTS INTO VERY DURABLE REMISSION.

>> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DURABLE REMISSIONS.

ARE THESE SITUATION WHERE IS THEY ARE STILL COMPROMISED IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM?

BECAUSE I KNOW SOMEONE WHO HAS THIS AND WHO HAS -- LIKE HE'S CURED FOR GOODNESS SAKES FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS.

>> YES.

THE BEST SITUATION WOULD FOR SOMEONE NOT TO BE MY PATIENT, OF COURSE, WE MEET SOCIALLY BUT THE TREATMENTS ARE SURPRISINGLY WELL-TOLERATED.

MANY OF MY PATIENTS IF I SEE THEM OUT ON THE STREET, I TELL THEM PEOPLE WOULD NOT KNOW THAT YOU HAD MULTIPLE MYELOMA.

NOW, THERE ARE A MINOR RISK FOR SIDE EFFECTS BUT OUR GOAL IS TO GET THEM BACK TO THEIR NORMAL LIVES AND AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO A NORMAL LIFE EXPECTANCY.

>> DO RESEARCH ON OTHER CANCERS GUIDE RESEARCH ON THIS PARTICULAR CANCER?

>> I THINK IT'S TRUE BUT TRUE ALSO IN THE REVERSE DIRECTION.

MYELOMA RESEARCH HAS GUIDE OTHER CANCER.

WE ALL TALK TO EACH OTHER.

WE'RE SOMEWHAT OF SILO APPROACH WHEN WE GO TO OUR MEETINGS, WE WANT TO LEARN WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN BRAIN AND LUNG CANCER AND ALL OF THE CANCERS.

>> WHAT ABOUT LYMPHOMAS, LEUKEMIA, THESE SORTS OF THINGS.

IS THERE A BIT OF A SILO WITH MULTIPLE MYELOMA OR -- >> WELL, THEY'RE NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBORS.

LYMPHOMA IS A NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR TO MYELOMA.

AND WHILE THEY'RE FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT IF YOU ASK ME ABOUT THE SCIENCE OF THE BIOLOGY, SOME OF THE TREATMENT WE USE AS WELL TOO AND EXCHANGE SOME OF THOSE DRUGS.

>> SO RESUBMISSION POSSIBLE.

IS IT LIKELY OR IS THAT JUST TOO INDIVIDUAL?

>> IT IS VERY LIKELY.

SO NOWADAYS IF YOU TAKE A PATIENT WHO HAS AN IMMUNITY DIAGNOSIS MYELOMA, I SHOULD SAY THAT 95% OF PATIENTS SHOULD GO INTO REMISSION.

THAT MEANS THE APPEARANCE OF THE TUMOR MARKERS THAT ALLOWS THIS MYELOMA TO OCCUR IN THE BACKGROUND OCCURS IN ABOUT 70 TO 75%.

>> ARE WE TALKING CURE HERE?

>> IT'S HARD TO TALK ABOUT THAT I AM PERSONALLY CONVINCED WE ARE CURING A FRACTION OF OUR PATIENTS.

FOR MOST OF THEM IS WHEN WE LOOK BACK AND SEE THAT THEY WERE DIAGNOSED 15 OR 20 YEARS AGO AND STILL THERE'S NO EVIDENCE OF RECURRENCE.

>> YEAH.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT VACCINES, MRNA VACCINES TOMORROW.

BUT I WANT TO FIND OUT IF THERE IS SUCH A THING AS A VACCINE POSSIBLE FOR THIS?

>> THERE'S SOME WORK GOING ON BUT NOT AT THE FOREFRONT FOR ARE FOR OUR PROGRESS RIGHT NOW.

I THINK THE MOST EXCITING AREA IS MODIFYING THE PERSON'S OWN T CELLS AND SPECIFIC ANTIBODIES.

SO WE USE IT ROUTINELY IN THE CLINIC WITH WONDERFUL RESULTS.

>> AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND WHY THESE RESULTS ARE SO WONDERFUL.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING DIFFERENTLY THAN OTHER HOSPITALS, RESEARCH ORGANIZATIONS, WHAT THEY'RE UP TO?

>> WELL, WE'VE TAKEN A MULTI-PROGRAM APPROACH, THAT INVOLVES MULTIPLE ASPECTS.

OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH A MULTI39 CENTER TEAM.

WE HAVE RESEARCH LABORATORIES THAT ARE DEVOTED TO THE STUDY OF MYELOMA AND ITS ORIGIN AND HOW CAN WE GO ABOUT TREATING THIS.

WE THINK WE CAN PROVIDE STATE OF THE ART CLINICAL CARE AND THAT'S AIDED IN SMALL PART BECAUSE OF THE TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE FOR DIAGNOSIS OF MONITORING AND A BIG CHUNK OF THIS IS OUR PARTICIPATION IN CLINICAL TRIAL.

SO IT'S ALL THAT THAT MAKES THIS QUITE SPECIAL FOR PATIENTS.

>> SO ADVANCEMENTS FROM HERE.

WHERE DO YOU GO?

WHAT DO YOU FOCUS ON?

>> WE STARTED HERE WORKING QUITE A BIT ON GENETICS.

THAT WAS THE GENERAL ASSISTS OUR PROGRAM, AND UNDERSTANDING GENETICS AS PROGNOSTIC MARKERS, THERAPEUTIC TOOLS AND NOW WE HAVE EVOLVED TO MAKE THAT A PATHWAY FOR DRUG DEVELOPMENT, SOME OF WHICH SEEMS TO BE QUITE EFFECTIVE.

>> IS THAT IN THE MARKET OR STILL UNDER -- >> SOME OF THAT IS IN THE MARKET, SOME THAT IS COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE, SOME OF THAT IS STILL AVAILABLE THAT WE HOPE WILL BRING ADDITIONAL OPTIONS FOR PATIENTS.

>> WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IMMUNOTHERAPY ON THIS PROGRAM SINCE REALLY IT WAS A BRAND-NEW WORD AND WE WERE ALL EXCITED ABOUT IT.

IT SEEMS TO HAVE COME A LONG WAY, BUT THIS SEEMS LIKE IT IS A -- AN ESPECIALLY GOOD CANCER STORY.

AM I GETTING THAT WRONG?

>> IT MAY SOUND SELF-SERVING BUT I THINK MYELOMA HAS BEEN AN EXAMPLE FOR MANY OTHER CANCERS BECAUSE THE SYSTEM OF APPROVALS, THE DEVELOPMENTS AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE DISEASE AND HAD MOST IMPORTANTLY THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THE SURVIVAL FOR PARENTS HAVE BEEN GREAT.

NOWADAYS EVERYONE WANTS TO WORK WITH MYELOMA BECAUSE OF THIS DYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT.

>> CONGRATULATIONS ON ALL OF THE GREAT WORK THERE AND THE GREAT STORIES, DR. RAFAEL, MAYO CLINIC, ARIZONA.

AGAIN, WE LOVE DOING POSITIVE HEALTH STORIES, AND THIS IS ONE OF THEM.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

>> THANK YOU.

IT WAS MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE.

SRP IS CONTINUING ITS EFFORT TO BRING ELECTRICITY TO RESIDENTS OF THE NAVAJO NATION WITH A PROGRAM CALLED "LIGHT UP NAVAJO."

THE GOAL IS GET ELECTRICITY TO REMOTE AREAS THAT HAVE HISTORICALLY NOT BEEN CONNECTED TO POWER GRIDS.

JESUS RODRIGUEZ IS A SECTION SUPERVISOR FOR SRP, HE JOINS US NOW... JESUS, GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

>> YOU BET.

NOW, THIS IS LIGHT UP NAVAJO 4, CORRECT?

>> 6.

>> 6?

HOLY MACKEREL, WHAT HAPPENED TO 4 AND 95 ALL RIGHT.

WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE?

>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, FOR SRP, WE'VE GONE UP THERE SINCE ITS INCEPTION, SIX YEARS AGO.

AND WE SPEND A FEW WEEKS UP THERE, AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH BUILDING POWER LINES TO THEMES HAVE NEVER HAD IT BEFORE.

>> AND YOU'RE WORKING WITH OTHER UTILITY COMPANIES, AS WELL, TRUE?

>> YES, WE ARE FROM ALL OVER THE NATION.

>> AND SO HOW DOES IT WORK?

I MEAN, HOW DO YOU -- FIRST OF ALL, HOW DO YOU FIGURE OUT WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GO AND TAKE IT FROM THERE?

>> WE USUALLY HAVE GUIDES FROM NT WAY THAT WE MEET AND LINK UP.

WE LINK UP AND GET THE JOBS FROM THEM, THE MATERIALS FROM THEM.

THEY GUIDE US INTO THE AREA BECAUSE THE AREA IS VAST, WIDE OPEN, AND OFTENTIMES INACCESSIBLE UNLESS YOU KNOW HOW TO GET THERE, SO THE GUYS FROM NTY HELP US GET, THERE HELP US LINE UP THE JOBS AND WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE OUR CREWS GO THROUGHOUT AND DO THE WORK.

>> THESE ARE HOMES.

HOW REMOTE ARE THESE HOMES?

>> JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, SOMETIMES WE CAN PUT UP 50 STRUCTURES JUST TO POWER ONE HOME, AND THAT COULD BE A FEW MILES AWAY FROM A MAIN ROAD.

>> WHEN YOU SAY STRUCTURES, YOU MEAN POLES?

>> POWER POLES.

>> YOU DIG THE HOLES, YOU INSTALL THE HOLES, YOU RUN THE ELECTRIC LINES.

THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?

>> YOU DECIDE THE HOLE, YOU SET THE POLE, RUN THE WIRE, HANG THE TRANSFORMER, ENERGIZE IT, SET THE METER, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS.

>> HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE?

>> IT DEPENDS HOW MANY POLES HAVE YOU.

>> AND HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY POLES YOU NEED DOES THE TERRAIN OF THE LAND DICTATE?

>> OFTEN IT DOES BUT ALL OF THAT HAS ALREADY WORKED THROUGHOUT THEIR DESIGNERS AND NTA DOES A FANTASTIC JOB OF PREPARING US TO GO UP THERE, AND SO WE GO OUT THERE, THE JOB SITES, THE POLES ARE DELIVERED, WE START DIGGING THE HOLES, SETTING THE POLES, DIGGING THE WIRE, HANGING THE TRANSFORMERS.

DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE SITE DEPENDS ON HOW LONG WE'LL BE THROUGHOUT.

>> AND NTUA, WHAT IS THAT?

>> THE NAVAJO TRIBAL UTILITY AUTHORITY.

>> HOW MUCH A PART OF THIS PROCESS ARE THEY?

>> WELL, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE -- WE'RE UP THERE DOING IT FOR THEM.

>> YEAH.

ARE THEY OVERSEEING, ARE THEY HELPING, BOTH?

>> A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING.

>> OKAY.

THE CHALLENGES, I WOULD IMAGINE THE -- YOU JUST GOT REMOTE AREAS.

IS HEAT A PROBLEM OR MOSTLY DONE NOT IN THE HOT WEATHER YEARS?

>> WE DO IT IN THE EARLY PART OF THE YEAR BUT THIS YEAR WE FACE A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING.

I WAS UP THERE FOR A WEEK, AND IT WAS EXTREMELY HOT FOR BEING UP NORTH, BUT THEN MY PARTNER WENT UP THERE FOR THE SECOND WEEK, AND HE ACTUALLY GOT SNOWED ON.

SO THEY HAD TO SHUT THE JOBS DOWN THE LAST FEW DAYS THEY WERE THERE BECAUSE OF THE AREAS WERE JUST IMPASSABLE.

THEY COULDN'T GET THERE.

THE VEHICLES WERE GETTING STUCK, AND IT -- THE LAST FEW DAYS WERE PRETTY MUCH JUST WORRIED ABOUT GETTING IN AND OUT OF THAT, AND THE WORK WAS -- CAME TO A HALT.

>> GETTING IN AND OUT OF THERE IS -- YOU HAVE CAMPGROUNDS, DO YOU HAVE TEMPORARY HOUSE SOMETHING IN HOW DOES THAT WORK?

THESE ARE LONG DISTANCES.

>> YES, THEY ARE.

OFTEN WE WOULD DRIVE A FEW HOURS A DAY TO GET STARTED AND TO GO DO A JOB.

WHICH MEANS WE START REALLY EARLY AND END REALLY LATE.

>> YEAH.

AND WHEN A FAMILY IS CONNECTED, WHEN A HOUSE IS CONNECTED, TALK ABOUT THAT EXPERIENCE.

>> IT'S A REALLY GOOD FEELING.

JUST TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE AND SEE THEM HAVE POWER FOR THE FIRST TIME, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALL TAKE FOR GRANTED, AND YOU REALLY SEE THE APPRECIATION OF BEING ABLE TO TURN THAT LIGHT BULB ON FOR THE FIRST TIME.

IT'S GREAT.

>> DO YOU HEAR OR SEE REACTIONS FROM FOLKS WHO MAY BE PART OF, YOU KNOW, LIGHT UP NAVAJO 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, WHO HAVE THE POWER NOW?

DO THEY COME TO YOU AND SAY IT'S BEEN A LIFE CHANGE CENTER.

>> THEY HAVE AN APPRECIATION DINNER ONCE A WEEK WHILE YOU'RE UP THERE, AND OFTEN A LOT OF THE CUSTOMERS, THE PEOPLE THAT WE MEET, THE PEOPLE THAT WE ENERGIZE GO TO THOSE DINNERS, AND THEY'RE JUST SO THANKFUL.

IT REALLY HITS HOME.

WE'RE NOT JUST DOING A JOB.

WE'RE HELPING OUT AND YOU DON'T REALIZE HOW THANKFUL PEOPLE ARE TO HAVE IT.

>> YEAH.

YEAH.

AS FAR AS GETTING OUTS TO THESE FOLKS ON THE NAVAJO NATION, WHEN YOU -- I IMAGINE QUITE A FEW HAVE BEEN DONE.

HOW MANY MORE NEED TO GET DONE?

>> AS FAR AS HOW MANY NEED TO GET DONE, I'M NOT SURE.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU WHAT WE'VE DONE SINCE ITS INCEPTION.

SRP HAS BEEN THERE SINCE LIGHT UP NAVAJO 1.

AND WE'VE INSTALLED 805 WOOD POLES.

WE'VE STRUNG 424,463 FEET OF WIRE.

WE'VE SET 98 TRANSFORMERS, AND PROVIDED RELIABLE POWER TO 128 FAMILIES.

>> VERY, VERY GOOD.

I GOTTA ASK YOU, HOW DID YOU GET INVOLVED IN ALL THIS?

>> THEY ASKED FOR VOLUNTEERS FROM OUR DIVISION, AND I JUST LIKE TO VOLUNTEER TO HELP PEOPLE OUT.

>> I WAS GONNA SAY, YOU PROBABLY HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS VOLUNTEERING FOR THIS, DON'T YOU?

>> WE DO.

WE DO.

AND IT'S TOUGHER EVERY YEAR TO CHOOSE THE PEOPLE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ONLY UP THERE A FEW WEEKS A YEAR, SO WE DEFINITELY TAKE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE MOST EXPERIENCE.

>> AND SOUNDS LIKE THERE ARE DOZENS OF OTHER UTILITY COMPANIES INVOLVED, AS WELL, CORRECT?

>> CORRECT.

>> AND SO YOU HAVE TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK TOGETHER TO GET THE JOB DONE, DON'T YOU?

>> YOU DO.

OFTEN YOU'RE SET IN AREAS WHERE YOU'RE WORKING BY YOURSELF, BUT SOMETIMES HAVE YOU THE TIE-IN AND WORK TOGETHER.

BUT BEING AN ELECTRICAL WORKER, BEING PART OF AN IBW, IT'S PART OF TRADITION.

>> SO IN WHITE UP NAVAJO, YOU SAY -- LIGHT UP NAVAJO, YOU SAY 6 NOW, HUH?

IS THERE GOING TO BE A 7, 8, AND 9?

>> I'M PRETTY SURE THERE IS.

>> ARE YOU GOING TO BE INVOLVED WITH IT.

>> I'M GOING TO TRY.

>> ALL RIGHT.

CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.

AND THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> AND THAT IS IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.