
Iran Attack, ICE Detentions and Protests, Phx Library Summer Programs
Season 2025 Episode 121 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
US attacked Iranian nuclear facilities this weekend, ICE carries out raids, New Phx library programs
The US attacked three key Iranian nuclear facilities this weekend. Officials are still assessing how significant of a blow it dealt to Tehran’s program, As ICE carries out raids across the country, fear is settling over undocumented and documented immigrants, The Phoenix library is hosting new events and programs this summer for children and adults to enjoy.
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Iran Attack, ICE Detentions and Protests, Phx Library Summer Programs
Season 2025 Episode 121 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
The US attacked three key Iranian nuclear facilities this weekend. Officials are still assessing how significant of a blow it dealt to Tehran’s program, As ICE carries out raids across the country, fear is settling over undocumented and documented immigrants, The Phoenix library is hosting new events and programs this summer for children and adults to enjoy.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorshipPRESIDENT TRUMP ANNOUNCES A PHASED-IN CEASE-FIRE IN THE FIGHTING BETWEEN ISRAEL AND IRAN... ALSO TONIGHT: DACA RECIPIENTS SPEAK OUT OVER NATIONWIDE IMMIGRATION RAIDS... AND, THE PHOENIX LIBRARY ROLLS OUT ITS SUMMER SCHEDULE OF EVENTS.
THOSE STORIES AND MORE, NEXT, ON.
ARIZONA HORIZON.
GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.
I'M TED SIMONS.
PRESIDENT TRUMP THIS AFTERNOON ANNOUNCED A CEASEFIRE BETWEEN ISRAEL AND IRAN.
THE PRESIDENT SAID THAT THE TWO COUNTRES, QUOTE, "FULLY AGREED TO A COMPLETE AND TOTAL CEASEFIRE" TO START AT ABOUT 9:00 PM ARIZONA TIME, WHEN THE PRESIDENT SAID, ISRAEL AND IRAN WILL HAVE COMPLETED THEIR IN-PROGRESS FINAL MISSIONS.
THE PRESIDENT SAID THAT THE CEASEFIRE WILL THEN BE PHASED-IN FOR 24 HOURS, AT WHIC POINT, THE PRESIDENT SAID, QUOTE, "THE WAR WILL BE CONSIDERED ENDED."
THE PRESIDENT MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT ON SOCIAL MEDIA JUST MINUTES AFTER BOTH ISRAEL AND IRAN WARNED OF FUTURE STRIKES.
THE PRESIDENT'S CEASEFIRE ANNOUNCEMENT FOLLOWED IRAN FIRING MISSILES AT A U.S. MILITARY BASE IN QATAR.
THERE WERE NO U.S.
CASUALTIES REPORTED.
THE U.S. AND QATAR BOTH SAY THA THEY THE INTERCEPTED THE IRANIA MEDIUM RANGE AND BALLISTIC MISSILES.
ALSO, IRANIAN OFFICIALS REPORTEDLY GAVE ADVANCED NOTICE THAT THE STRIKES WERE COMING TO MINIMIZE CASUALTIES.
THE TARGETED AIR BASE IS THE LARGEST AMERICAN MILITARY INSTALLATION IN THE MIDDLE EAST WITH ABOUT 10,000 TROOPS STATIONED THERE.
THE U.S. HAS BEEN USING THE BAS SINCE THE DAYS AFTER THE SEPTEMBER 11TH ATTACKS IN 2001.
TODAY'S CEASEFIRE ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT ALSO FOLLOWED ESCALATION FROM ISRAEL, WHICH LAUNCHED WIDE-RANGING STRIKES O TEHRAN, SMOKE AND DAMAGE SEEN HERE.
ALSO TODAY, PRIOR TO THE CEASEFIRE ANNOUNCEMENT, IRAN CONTINUED TO FIRE MISSILES INTO ISRAEL.
WE WILL HAVE MORE ON THE CONFLICT IN THE MIDDLE EAST IN JUST A MOMENT.
OTHER HEADLINES: THE U.S. SUPREME COURT TODAY ALLOWED THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TO RESTART DEPORTATIONS OF MIGRANTS TO COUNTRIES OTHER THAN THEIR HOMELANDS.
A LOWER COURT HAD BLOCKED SUCH DEPORTATIONS, SAYING THAT MIGRANTS NEEDED A CHANCE TO PROVE THAT THEY COULD BE IN DANGER OF TORTURE IF SENT AWAY FROM THEIR HOME-COUNTRIES.
THE HIGH-COURT DID NOT GIVE A DETAILED REASONING FOR ORDERING THE DEPORTATIONS TO CONTINUE.
ALL THREE LIBERAL JUSTICES DISSENTED FROM THAT ORDER.
AND THE ARIZONA HOUSE TODAY IS EXPECTED TO PASS A SHORT-TERM VERSION OF THE BUDGET THAT HOUS REPUBLICANS PASSED LAST WEEK.
BUT IF PASSED, THE GOVERNOR IS EXPECTED TO VETO THE SPENDING PLAN, HAVING WORKED WITH THE SENATE ON A BUDGET THAT THE SENATE PASSED AND SENT TO THE HOUSE.
THE STATE IS ONE WEEK AWAY FROM A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN IF REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE CAN'T COME TOGETHER FOR BUDGET THAT THE GOVERNOR WILL SIGN.
AS WE MENTIONED, PRESIDENT TRUM WENT ON SOCIAL MEDIA A COUPLE O HOURS AGO AND ANNOUNCED A PHASED-IN CEASEFIRE BETWEEN ISRAEL AND IRAN.
THIS FOLLOWS THE U.S.
ATTACKING IRANIAN NUCLEAR FACILITIES THIS WEEKEND, WHICH PROMPTED IRAN TO FIRE MISSILES AT A U.S. AIR BAS IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
FOR AN OVERVIEW OF ALL THIS, WE WELCOME THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE McCAIN INSTITUTE, EVELYN FARKAS.
GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE, EVELYN.
FIRST OF ALL, WHAT DO WE MAKE -- I MEAN, IT'S MONDAY AFTERNOON HERE, IT'S BEEN AN HOUR NOW.
DO WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE CEASEFIRE?
>> NO, TED, BECAUSE THIS IS AN UNCONVENTIONAL ANNOUNCEMENT WHERE THE U.S. PRESIDENT WHICH ISN'T SUPPOSEDLY PARTY TO THIS WAR IS ANNOUNCING THAT THERE'S A CEASEFIRE BETWEEN IRAN AND ISRAEL BUT DON'T SEE ANY STATEMENTS COMING ON OUT OF THOSE CAPITALS AND SO I'M NOT SURE WHETHER WE CAN CONSIDER IT A CREDIBLE STATEMENT UNTIL THE LEADERS OF THOSE TWO COUNTRIES ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY WORKING TOWARDS A CEASEFIRE.
>> AND IF THEY DO, LET'S GO AHEAD AND SAY THAT THERE WAS SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT, AND THE PRESIDENT JUST WENT AHEAD AND ANNOUNCED ON SOCIAL MEDIA WHAT MAYBE THEY WANTED HIM TO WAIT TO ANNOUNCE, BE THAT AS IT MAY, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE BOMBING, THE U.S.
BOMBING ON IRANIAN NUCLEAR FACILITIES, WAS THAT A SUCCESS?
>> WELL, I WOULD SAY IN THE SHORT TERM, TED, THAT IT WAS A SUCCESS, AND, YOU KNOW, IT FOLLOWS ISRAELI SUCCESS, BOMBING NUCLEAR SITES AND MILITARY SITES AS WELL.
SO WE KNOW THAT THE IRANIAN NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAM HAS BEEN SET BACK, AND THAT IS A SUCCESS.
THE REST, OF COURSE, REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
WHAT HAPPENS IN THE MEDIUM TO LONG TERM?
YOU KNOW, DOES THE IRANIAN GOVERNMENT HAVE AN ABILITY TO RECONSTITUTE HOW QUICKLY CAN THEY DO IT?
AND IN THE MEANTIME, WHAT HAPPENS INTERNALLY IN IRAN?
THOSE ARE ALL REALLY IMPORTANT POINTS.
BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT IS HAVING A CEASE CEASEFIRE AND THEN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE OUTSIDE PARTIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WAR THAT STARTED BETWEEN ISRAEL AND IRAN IS DEFINITIVELY OVER.
>> AND YET, YOU TALKED NEGOTIATIONS JUST HOURS AFTER THE U.S.
BOMB OF THE IRANIAN NUCLEAR FACILITIES, IRAN EMPHASIZED, NO MORE TALKS WITH THE U.S., THEY CAN'T BE TRUSTED BECAUSE OF THE DECEPTION THAT IRAN SAW INVOLVED.
DO THEY HAVE A POINT?
>> WELL, THEY HAVE A POINT BUT THIS IS ALL DIPLOMACY AND FALLS INTO THE CATEGORY OF DIPLOMATIC LUSTER.
IT'S IN THEIR INTEREST RIGHT NOW TO NEGOTIATE.
HONESTLY IT'S IN THEIR INTEREST TO NEGOTIATE EVEN IN BAD FAITH.
THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO BE HIT MILITARILY AGAIN.
BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN IF THEY DON'T NEGOTIATE IN GOOD FAITH, THEY KNOW THAT THEY HAVE AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT WHO'S NOT PREDICTABLE AND FRANKLY THEY ALSO HAVE THE THREAT OF SANCTIONS, BECAUSE THIS HASN'T BEEN COVERED VERY WIDELY, BUT THE AGREEMENT THAT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION SIGNED, THE UNITED STATES LEFT UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP, AND THIS WAS AN AGREEMENT TO HALT IRAN'S NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAM.
THE EUROPEANS ACTUALLY, WHEN THE SANCTIONS WERE LIFTED BY THE EUROPEANS AND THE U.S.
ULTIMATELY WASN'T PART OF THE AGREEMENT ANYMORE, THIS HE HAD A SNAP-BACK, A PROVISION WHERE THEY COULD REINSTATE SANCTIONS ON IRAN.
IF IRAN LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT NEGOTIATING IN GOOD FAITH -- AND BY THE WAY, EVEN BEFORE THESE ATTACKS BY ISRAEL, THE U.N.
INSPECTORS, THE U.N. AGENCY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INSPECTIONS HAD ALREADY COME OUT WITH A STATEMENT BASICALLY POINTING A FINGER AT IRAN SAYING THEY WERE IN VIOLATION.
IF IRAN DOESN'T COME BACK INTO AGREEMENT, SEEMS TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ENDING OR PUTTING A HALT ON THEIR NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAM, THE EUROPEANS CAN SANCTION THEM, AND THEY DON'T WANT THAT EITHER.
>> SO OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE NOT IN A GOOD POSITION.
IRAN IS SIMPLY NOT IN A GOOD POSITION IN A VARIETY OF WAYS BUT CAN CAUSE HAVOC AND THEY CAN MAKE A MESS.
YOU CAN CAUSE PROBLEMS THERE, OIL PRICES, YOU CAN CAUSE PROBLEMS THERE.
ARE THOSE SERIOUS ISSUES RIGHT NOW, OR IS THE WAY THIS IS PLAYING, ARE THOSE A LITTLE BIT IN THE BACKGROUND?
>> I THINK, TED, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE MADE THE CALCULUS THAT THEY, TEHERAN, HAS AS MUCH TO LOSE FROM CLOSING THE STRAITS AS ANY OTHER COUNTRY, BECAUSE THEY RELY ON THAT MODE OF TRANSPORTATION, THAT AREA TO ALSO GET THEIR OIL AND GAS OUT TO THE LARGER MARKETS.
WE KNOW THAT CHINA GETS ABOUT 80-SOMETHING PERCENT OFOE I THINK IT'S 84% OF ITS OIL AND GAS FROM IRAN, ACTUALLY, THROUGH THOSE STRAITS.
AND ABOUT, I THINK, 15% OF THE TOTAL OIL GOES THROUGH THERE.
SO IT WILL CAUSE A LOT OF PAIN, ESPECIALLY IN ASIA.
AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THE IRANIANS WANT TO ALSO INFLICT THE PAIN ON THEMSELVES.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, I WOULD SAY THAT THE EUROPEANS ARE WATCHING THIS CLOSELY BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THEIR INTEREST TO WATCH THE OIL PRICES GO UP BECAUSE IN ANOTHER PART OF THE WORLD THEY'RE TRYING TO HAVE THE OIL PRICES REDUCED SO THAT VLADIMIR PUTIN, WHO IS STILL ABLE TO SELL OIL ON THE OPEN MARKET, DOESN'T MAKE AS MUCH MONEY TO PUT INTO HIS WAR AGAINST UKRAINE.
>> I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED PUTIN RUSSIA HAS BEEN VERY, VERY QUIET THROUGHOUT ALL OF THIS.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?
>> I THINK IT'S BECAUSE RUSSIA RECOGNIZES THAT, NUMBER ONE, THIS IS A NICE DIVERSION FROM WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO UKRAINE.
I MEAN, THEY HAVE BEEN LOBBYING A LOT OF MISSILES AND DRONES AT THE UKRAINIAN POPULATION.
SECOND, OF COURSE, THEY DIDN'T MIND THE CRISES DRAWING OUT AND POTENTIALLY RAISING THE PRICE OF OIL.
BUT THEY PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO SAY SO PUBLICALLY BECAUSE THEY MIGHT MAKE BEIJING ANGRY.
SO TO THEM, IT'S JUST JUST BEING QUIET AND WATCHING THIS PLAY OUT.
THERE'S NO DOWNSIDE THAT FOR THEM RIGHT NOW.
>> AND IRAN IS PROBABLY SAYING THANKS A LOT, SUCH A FRIEND YOU ARE.
>> WELL, THAT'S THE DOWNSIDE THAT THEY LOOK LESS RELIABLE.
>> WHAT ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN IRAN WITH THE POPULOUS, WITH THE PEOPLE.
THE U.S. AIR STRIKES OBVIOUSLY WERE TARGETING NUCLEAR FACILITIES, NOT RESIDENTIAL AREAS, THESE SORTS OF THINGS BUT THERE'S ALWAYS TALK THAT THE POPULATION THERE IS RESTLESS.
THEY DON'T LIKE THE LEADERSHIP, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR CHANGE.
DOES THIS TILT THINGS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER?
>> YEAH, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT HAPPENS NEXT.
THE IRANIAN PEOPLE, WHILE THEY ARE PROUD AND SURE THEY WOULD BE PROUD TO HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS BUT VERY ANGRY AT THE DICTATORSHIP OF THE RELIGIOUS THAT HAVE RULED THEM FOR DECADES.
WE KNOW MOST OF THE WOMEN ARE OPPOSED AND MOST IRAN EXPERTS SAY THAT THERE'S ONLY ABOUT 20% OF THE POPULATION THAT SUPPORTS IRAN -- SORRY, SUPPORTS THE GOVERNMENT, THE REGIME, THE OTHER THING IS OF COURSE THAT IRAN IS MADE UP OF DIFFERENT ETHNIC GROUPS SO NOT EVERYONE IS PERSIAN ETHNICITY.
IT IS AN INTERESTING SITUATION INTERNALLY.
ISRAEL HAS MADE THE SITUATION A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE THEY HAVE STRUCK SOME CIVILIAN TARGETS LIKE THE NEW -- ONE OF THE MAJOR NEWS ROOMS.
AND SO THAT CAUSED THE IRANIAN PEOPLE, OF COURSE, TO FEEL A LITTLE BIT OF NATIONALISM TO INCLUDE SOME OF THE DISSIDENCE.
SO THEY HAVE SPOKEN OUT AGAINST ISRAEL AND AGAINST THESE STRIKES.
SO IT'S COMPLICATED IN NUANCE, BUT I THINK IF ISRAEL WERE TO STOP, IF WE WERE TO HAVE A CEASEFIRE, THEN I THINK THE IRANIAN PEOPLE WOULD BE FREE, FRANKLY, TO NOT WORRY ABOUT NATIONALISM AND THREATS ON THE OUTSIDE, BUT TO MAKE TAKE MATTERS INTO THEIR OWN HANDS INTERNALLY.
>> AND TAKE MATTERS INTO THEIR OWN HANDS INTERNALLY COULD MEAN SOMETHING AS SERIOUS AS A CIVIL WAR.
IS THAT A POSSIBILITY HERE?
>> WELL, A CIVIL WAR IS ALWAYS POSSIBLE IF YOU ARE DEALING WITH A GOVERNMENT THAT FALLS INTO CRISES OR COLLAPSES.
SO IF THE MILITARY TURNS AGAINST THE REGIME AGAINST THE AYATOLLAHS, THEN THE QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS NEXT, IS SOMEONE ABLE TO THEN TAKE CONTROL.
CAN THE POLITICAL POWER THAT BE IN OPPOSITION AND THE OUTSIDE FORCES, FRANKLY THE UNITED STATES, THE EUROPEAN UNION AND OTHERS, BROKER SOME TYPE OF TRANSITIONAL GOVERNMENT UNTIL YOU CAN GET TO THE ELECTIONS, WHICH IS, BY THE WAY, WHAT WE DID IN UKRAINE.
THE LEADERSHIP, ESSENTIALLY THE MILITARY SHOT CIVILIANS AND THEN REALIZED THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY.
SO -- AND THE PEOPLE DEFINITELY ABANDONED THE KREMLIN-BACKED LEADER IN 2014.
SO THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY STEPPED IN AND BROCKERED A TRANSITION WITH ALL OPPOSITION FORCES, RUSSIA, THE EUROPEAN UNION, THE UNITED STATES.
SO WE'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN BEFORE.
IT'S POSSIBLE.
BUT YOU CAN'T BRING ABOUT REGIME CHANGE, TED, THROUGH BOMBS.
YOU REALLY NEED A CEASEFIRE, AND YOU NEED THE PEOPLE IN IRAN TO SORT THIS OUT FOR THEMSELVES.
>> LAST QUESTION HERE BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME BUT I WANT TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON, WHAT DO WE LOOK FOR NEXT?
>> WELL, I THINK WE LOOK FOR ISRAELI MISSILES TO STOP FLYING THROUGH THE AIR, BECAUSE THAT WOULD INDICATE A CEASEFIRE, AND THE SAME FOR THE IRANIANS.
AND THEN WE LOOK FOR REAL NEGOTIATIONS BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, WE HAVE TO PUT IRAN'S NUCLEAR AMBITION, YOU KNOW, GET IT DEEPLY BURIED UNDERGROUND, HOPEFULLY, UNTIL THERE CAN BE A NEW REGIME, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT HAPPENED IN THE EXAMPLE OF SYRIA, WHERE SYRIA'S NUCLEAR FACILITIES WERE ALSO BOMBED AND ASSAD PRETTY MUCH GAVE ON THE NUCLEAR EXPERIMENT AND EVENTUALLY OF COURSE HE WAS OVERTHROWN.
>> GREAT, DR. EVELYN FARKAS, AGAIN, THE McCAIN INSTITUTE, ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU, TED, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
IMMIGRATION RAIDS CONTINUE ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WITH UNDOCUMENTED AND DOCUMENTED MIGRANTS FEELING THE IMPACT.
THE CONCERNS EXTEND TO DACA RECIPIENTS, WHO'VE BEEN GRANTED PROTECTION FROM DEPORTATION UNDER THE DACA PROGRAM.
JOINING US NOW IS DACA RECIPIEN REYNA MONTOYA, FOUNDER AND CEO OF ALIENTO.
GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
THANKS FOR JOINING US.
>> GOOD TO SEE YOU WELL.
ALIENTO TRANSLATES INTO BREA AND GIVING WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT.
THAT'S WHAT WE DO IS GIVE HOPE TO OUR STUDENTS.
>> AND THESE ARE DACA STUDENTS.
>> YEAH, THEY'RE FROM IMMIGRANT FAMILIES, DACA STUDENTS.
>> HAS THE MISSION CHANGED, WHAT YOU'VE CHANGED AND HOW YOU'RE DOING IT SINCE THE START OF THE YEAR?
>> DEFINITELY HOW WE DO IT.
I THINK ROUTE NOW THERE'S MORE HEIGHTENED DISTRUST WITH ANY INSTITUTION.
THANKFULLY WE HAVE HAD GOOD TRUST WITH OUR COMMUNITY, BUT NOW PEOPLE ARE MORE HESITANT AND BEING ABLE TO COME FORWARD AND ASK FOR HELP BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS GONNA GET A HOLD OF THAT INFORMATION.
>> EVEN COMING FORWARD TO ALIENTO?
I THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT GOING TO EVENTS IN PERSON SO WE HAD TO MODIFY IN ORDER TO REACH THE COMMUNITY AND MEET THEM WHERE THEY'RE AT.
>> THE PRESIDENT WAS SUPPOSED TO FOCUS ON VIOLENT CRIMINALS.
THAT'S WHAT WE HEARD WHEN THE I.C.E.
IMMIGRATION PROGRAMS FIRST STARTED.
IS THAT HAPPENING?
>> THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SEEING IN THE GROUND.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SEEING IN THE REPORTS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF USCAS AND DETENTION.
RIGHT NOW, IF THAT WAS THE CASE, WHY ARE STUDENTS ACROSS THE NATION, WHO ARE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, WHO COULDN'T QUALIFY FOR THE DACA PROGRAM ARE GETTING DETAINED AT TRAFFIC VIOLATION AS SOON AS WE HAVE SEEN IT IN UTAH, IN NEW YORK, IN MASSACHUSETTS, IN CALIFORNIA, IN GEORGIA, AND THE LIST GOES ON.
THE OTHER THING THAT RECENTLY HAPPENED JUST LAST WEEK WAS THAT FOR YEARS, THERE WERE CASES THAT WERE ADMINISTRATIVELY CLOSED BY I.C.E., BY JUDGES, AND BEING RE-OPENED ON THE CALENDAR.
WHY ARE WE GOING AFTER THOSE FOLKS THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY DETERMINED THAT THE CASE SHOULD BE CLOSED?
>> YOUR THOUGHTS, AGAIN, THERE ARE ARRESTS OUTSIDE COURTROOMS, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN OTHER AVENUES HERE.
THE CASES DISMISSED, THE PEOPLE COME OUT, THEY SHOW UP FOR THE HEARING, CASE DISMISSED.
THEY COME OUT, THEY'RE DETAINED WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS?
>> IF WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT NOT LIKING CURRENT IMMIGRATION LAW, THAT'S A SEPARATE CONVERSATION.
CURRENTLY, LIKE IT OR NOT, OR DESPITE OF PEOPLE'S REACTIONS ON THE IMMIGRATION PROCESS, THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THAT THESE FOLKS DID EVERYTHING RIGHT.
THE PROCESS OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WAS TO GO TO THE APP, FILE A CLAIM.
THAT'S THE PROCESS.
PEOPLE DID IT.
THEY WENT TO THE LEGAL CHANNELS, AND THEY DID IT THE RIGHT WAY, AND THEY'RE STILL GOING AND APPREHENDING THEM AT COURTS.
THAT IS SO OUT OF LINE.
>> IS THAT A NEW TACTIC?
>> THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN THIS SCALE.
THERE WERE A COUPLE OF INSTANCES, FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING MY RESEARCH AND ASKING QUESTIONS, THAT HAPPENED UNDER THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION IN VERY ISOLATED PARTS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN AT THIS SCALE, FROM WHAT I'VE READ UP.
>> WE'VE SEEN THIS IN COURTHOUSES HERE.
AS FAR AS IMMIGRATION RAIDS.
MASSIVE IMMIGRATION RAIDS, WHAT ARE WE SEEING IN ARIZONA?
ARE THEY FEW AND FAR BETWEEN?
ARE THERE ANY REGULARITY TO THEM?
>> IT IS REALLY HARD TO UNDERSTAND.
I.C.E.
IS NOT BEING FORTHCOMING ABOUT THEIR APPREHENSIONS.
WE ARE SEEING THAT BORDERS HAVE SAID THAT EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE THAT'S UNDOCUMENTED IS A FREE FOR ALL.
WE ARE SEEING MORE ACTIVITY ON I.C.E.
I THINK IT'S HARD TO PINPOINT BUT A RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT BEING DRESSED IN THE APPROPRIATE GEAR, AND IT'S REALLY HARD AND SCARY BECAUSE WHAT ABOUT IF THESE ARE OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY ASSOCIATED WITH THE FEDERAL AGENCIES THAT ARE MAKING THESE THINGS.
I THINK THAT CRIME IS GOING TO INCREASE BECAUSE OF THE INACCURATE OPERATIONS.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE IDEA THAT DRIVES PEOPLE UNDERGROUND?
WE'VE HEARD ABOUT IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT IN THE PAST, IT DRIVES PEOPLE AWAY FROM SOCIETY, WITH A HE FROM THE NORMS, AWAY FROM CALLING POLICE, AWAY FROM LAW AND ORDER, COURT CASES, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS.
DO YOU SEE THAT HAPPENING HERE?
>> WE DON'T HAVE TO IMAGINE THAT.
WE'VE LIVED THAT RECENTLY I HAD A STUDENT THAT WAS BORN HERE AND SHE WOULDN'T GO AND SAY THAT SOMEONE HUT HER CAR BECAUSE SHE WAS AFRAID THAT THAT COULD POTENTIALLY EXPOSE HER FAMILY MEMBERS, WHO DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT DOCUMENTATION.
>> AND THOSE WHO AGREE WITH WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS DOING, AND THOSE WHO THINK THIS IS A GOOD THING, THEY CALL THIS AN INVASION, THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF SAID UNAUTHORIZED IMMIGRANTS ARE DESTROYING SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS, AND DESTROYING COMMUNITIES.
HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT?
>> I WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAS GENERATED THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF MONEY AND EMPLOYED U.S. CITIZENS, WHO HAVE BEEN A TEACHER, WHO HAVE IMPACTED THE LIVES OF HUNDREDS OF STUDENTS.
THAT'S NOT WHO WE ARE.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THE DATA SAYS.
THE MAJORITY OF UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PAYING TAX, HAVE BEEN DOING THE BEST THAT THEY CAN, TO GET RIGHT WITH THE LAW.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM IS COMPLETELY BROKEN AND IT HAS BEEN SINCE 1986.
>> IS IT HARDER TO GET IMMIGRANTS NOW AS OPPOSED TO LAST YEAR OR FIVE YEARS AGO -- TO REGISTER WITH THE GOVERNMENT?
>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?
>> WELL, THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO SEE MORE REGISTRATION AS FAR AS PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE, WHETHER OR NOT HERE LEGALLY OR NOT.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT?
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENING OUT THERE?
IS THAT A SPEAKING POINT?
>> I MEAN, I THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE MORE MISTRUST.
EVEN THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE FOLLOWING THEIR LEGAL PATHWAYS.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE SEEING THAT I.C.E.
IS OUTSIDE OF UACAS.
THAT'S TYPICALLY THE DEPARTMENT THAT PROCESSES ALL OF THE LEGAL MIGRATION.
PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF GOING THERE, BECAUSE THEY'RE LIKE, WHAT IF I GET DENIED, AM I GONNA GET DETAINED?
WHAT ARE YOU TELLING PEOPLE THAT COME TO YOU FOR ADVICE?
>> I AM NOT ATTORNEY.
I'M TELLING THEM TO PLEASE GO SEE AN ATTORNEY, TALK TO US SO WE CAN POTENTIALLY PARTNER YOU UP WITH A COUPLE OF TRUSTED ATTORNEYS.
DO NOT WAIT UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE.
RIGHT NOW IF SOMETHING HAS CHANGED IN YOUR LIFE BECAUSE YOU GOT MARRIED, BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN A VICTIM OF A CRIME, THIS IS THE TIME TO SPEAK TO AN ATTORNEY AND NOT TO LOSE HOPE.
WE -- THERE'S A SAYING IN SPAN ISSUE THAT HOPE IS THE LAST THING THAT DIES, SO I DO BELIEVE THAT IN THE GOODNESS OF AMERICAN PEOPLE, THEY WANT TO PROCESS, AND A MAJORITY OF THEM ARE GOOD PEOPLE WHEN THEY GET TO UNDERSTAND HOW DYSFUNCTIONAL OUR SYSTEM IS, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET OUT OF THIS.
>> ALWAYS A PLEASURE, RAYNA.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> LIKEWISE.
PHOENIX PUBLIC LIBRARY HAS A SUMMER-LONG SCHEDULE OF EVENTS AND PROGRAMS FOR CHILDREN AND ADULTS.
THE PROGRAMS INCLUDE THINGS LIK READING AND ART CLASSES.
WE LEARN MORE ABOUT THE SUMMER SCHEDULE FROM THE LIBRARY'S LEE FRANKLIN.
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> GOOD TO SEE YOU.
I LOVE COMING TO TALK TO YOU.
>> THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR.
YOU GOT A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON OVER THERE, HUH?
>> ALWAYS, SUMMER IS LIKE -- IT IS THE PLACE TO BE.
THE LIBRARY IS THE BEST PLACE TO COME TO, ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMER.
LOTS OF GREAT FUN STUFF THAT'S ALL FREE, FAMILY-FRIENDLY AND IN OUT OF THE HEAT.
>> I WAS GONNA SAY IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO BE BECAUSE IT'S GOT AIR CONDITIONING.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
WE CROSS OUR FINGERS AND KNOCK ON WOOD, OUR BUILDINGS ARE CHUGGING AWAY, KEEPING EVERYONE COOL.
>> DID THE LINE-UP THIS YEAR, DOES IT CHANGE MUCH YEAR TO YEAR?
>> A LITTLE BIT FOR SUMMER READING.
YOU KNOW, IT'S OUR ANNUAL PROGRAM SO KICKS OFF JUNE 1ST, GOES THROUGH AUGUST 1st.
WE HAVE LOTS OF FUN, GREAT PROGRAMS FOR EVERYONE.
A LOT OF THEM ARE REPEATERS, THEY'RE ONES THAT ARE FAVORITES THAT WE BRING BACK EVERY SUMMER AND TRY NEW THINGS OUT EVERY YEAR AS WELL.
>> I'M SEEING THE MAKE MUSIC PHOENIX.
ARE THOSE PERFORMANCE AS SOON AS WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT.
>> YES.
IT'S A PARTNERSHIP THAT WE DO WITH ROSIE PALS, THAT SPECIFICALLY BRINGS MUSIC EDUCATION AND ACCESS TO ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF MUSIC.
THEY'RE A NONPROFIT AND DO A LOT WITH US.
YES, THERE'S PERFORMANCES, THERE'S INTERACTIVE, HANDS-ON STUFF.
THERE'S MUSIC-RELATED CRAFTS.
PLUS, I WOULD THINK, NO MATTER WHAT THE PROGRAM IS OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT PEOPLE ARE DOING AT THE LIBRARY THIS SUMMER, WHAT WE ARE FINDING, WHAT WE'RE HEARING A LOT IS REALLY RESONATING WITH PEOPLE, IS THAT IT'S A CONNECTION WITH COMMUNITY, WHICH I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF US MISSED IN A LOT OF WAYS.
>> THEY'RE CRAFTING CLASSES.
THAT GETS EVERYONE TOGETHER, AND SOMETHING CALLED ADULT CRAFTERNOON.
>> OH, YEAH.
SO DO YOU REMEMBER SLINKY DUNK?
>> YOU KNOW -- >> FOR THOSE OF US OF A CERTAIN AGE.
>> NO.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
>> THEY WERE A FUN CRAFT ACTIVITY THAT WE BLADE WHEN WE WERE GROWING UP, MY BROTHER AND SISTER AND I AND OUR FRIENDS.
WE PLAYED WITH.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S FEATURED IN THE ADULT SIDE.
IF YOU'RE INTERESTED TO HAVE A CRAFT PROJECT OR LEARN A NEW SKILL, A WAY TO HAVE QUALITY TIME IN A QUIET WAY, NEEDING TO CONNECT WITH OTHERS, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF BRANCHES THAT DO A REGULAR ADULT CRAFTERNOON.
>> AND YOU CAN LEARN TRADITIONAL CUISINE.
>> YEAH.
ABSOLUTELY.
BALONA YAHTZEE, SHE COMES AND TALKS ABOUT MODERN NAVAJO CULINARY AND A LOT OF THE CULTURAL ELEMENTS.
WE JUST HAD ONE OF THOSE AT ONE OF OUR BRANCHES ON SATURDAY.
>> VERY GOOD.
DANCING CLASSES, FLAMINGO... BALIWOOD?
>> YES.
THAT'S BECOME A POPULAR PROGRAM EVERYTHING IS FAMILY FRIENDLY, ALL AGES.
WE'VE GOT STUFF FOR KIDS SPECIFICALLY, BUT REALLY START WITH US AT ANY AGE.
COME VISIT PHOENIX PUBLIC LIBRARY AND SIGN UP FOR SUMMER READING.
OF COURSE, WE'RE ABOUT THE READING.
>> YEAH, YOU BETTER BE.
>> OH, YEAH, WE INCORPORATE THAT INTO EVERYTHING.
>> AND YOU GOT YOURSELF A BINGO NIGHT TOO, DON'T YOU.
>> OH, YEAH.
BINGO, YEAH.
ANYTHING THAT YOU COULD BE LOOKING FOR, START WITH THE LIBRARY.
>> ARE PEOPLE SURPRISED THAT THIS KIND OF STUFF GOES ON AT THE LIBRARY?
>> YES.
WE HEAR THAT A LOT.
WE HEAR TWO THINGS, THEY'RE KIND OF PAIRED TOGETHER.
ONE IS, OH, I LOVE THE LIBRARY, THE LIBRARY IS SO IMPORTANT.
I LOVE THE LIBRARY AND THAT IT EXIST.
BUT THEN QUICKLY FOLLOWING THAT IS, I HAVE NO IDEA THAT YOU GUYS DID SO MUCH ALL THE TIME.
>> AND SO FOR SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT -- BECAUSE THERE ARE A TON OF CLASSES.
WE JUST SCRATCHED THE SURFACE.
>> COME VISIT PHOENIXPUBLICLIBRARY.ORG.
YOU CAN LEARN ABOUT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PRESENTS.
WE'VE GOT THEM PRESENTED BY AGE, BY TOPIC, BY LOCATION, AND THEN GET STARTED WITH GETTING YOUR LIBRARY CARD.
>> YEAH.
IS THAT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
>> THIS IS IT, YES.
THIS IS OUR CURRENT PHOENIX LIBRARY CARD.
COME VISIT US, PHOENIXPUBLICLIBRARY.ORG.
>> ALL RIGHT, LEE FRANKLIN.
GOOD LUCK THIS SUMMER.
STAY OUT OF THE HEAT.
>> YEAH, COME VISIT US.
>> OKAY.
THAT'S IT FOR NOW.
I'M TED SIMONS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
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