
Rescission of Public Broadcast Funds, Logistics Managers Index, New Summer Books
Season 2025 Episode 139 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
Rescission of public broadcast funds, Logistics Managers Index, and new summer books.
The Senate votes to approve a claw back of public broadcast funds, learning about the Logistics Managers Index (LMI) and how it tracks monthly changes in the US supply chain, and finding out what the best new novels for this summer and beyond are.
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Rescission of Public Broadcast Funds, Logistics Managers Index, New Summer Books
Season 2025 Episode 139 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
The Senate votes to approve a claw back of public broadcast funds, learning about the Logistics Managers Index (LMI) and how it tracks monthly changes in the US supply chain, and finding out what the best new novels for this summer and beyond are.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship♪ Music Playing ♪ >> Coming up on next on "Arizona Horizon", we'll hear from "Arizona Horizon" PBS's general major the senate's vote to pull funding from public media.
Also tonight, a look at how the global supply chain is an economic indicator.
And change is hands books store recommends must-reads for the summer.
Those stories and more next on "Arizona Horizon."
>> "Arizona Horizon" is made possible by contributions from the friends of Arizona PBS, members of your public television station.
>> Good evening and welcome to "Arizona Horizon", I am Rick Debruhl filling in to said Ted Simons the house is expected to approve president Donald trump's request to claw back about $9 billion of funding for public broadcasting and foreign aid that after the seven senate approved a funding cut on a 51-48 vote last night.
Final approval is schedule for this even the corporation for public broadcasting which helps fund PBS and NPR.
Would lose about $1.1 billion Republicans are targeting institutions and programs that they view as bloated or out of step with their agenda.
The white house has described the package as a test case and says it congress goes along with that more requests will come.
The house's approval marks the first time in decades that a president has successfully submitted such a could to congress.
We'll have more on the cuts come can go up shortly.
U.S. immigration customs enforcement officials will have access to personally identifiable information for all the nation's 79 million Medicaid enrollees.
That's according to a document obtained by the associated president.
Ice officials plan to track immigrants who may not be loving legally in the United States.
Direct access will be given to it the addresses, Social Security numbers, birth dates, as well as the ethnicity and race of all Medicaid enrollees.
The doubter of former FBI director James Comey who works also a federal prosecutor in Manhattan has been fired by the trump justice department.
Maurene Comey who worked on indications against Sean "DIDDY" combs and Jeffrey Epstein has told colleagues this a note that fear is the tool of a tyrant.
And that her firing without reason should fuel a fire of righteous Indy nation at abuses of power.
The State's Democratic party has voted out its chair, he was facing calls for his ouster from the State's five top Democratic elected officials and some others.
Such as a veterans group and a progressive group.
In a 476-56 vote the State party removedded Robert Branscomb II from his position, he had won it in January during an upset election, critics cited fundraising issues and the failure to follow protocols, Branscomb who is African American says his ouster has to do with racism.
Vice chair Kim Khoury will step in to replace Branscomb.
The U.S. senate voted to approve a $9 billion rescission package that includes $1.1 billion in funding cuts for the corporation for public broadcasting.
That's for the next two years.
Both PBS and NPR received funding from the corporation for public broadcast to go conduct their programming and public safety measures.
Joining us now with more on what this senate vote means is Arizona PBS's generally manager.
Scott.
Thanks fa being here.
>> You are he'll welcome.
>> Normally we have a disclaimer talking about we have a slight conflict of interest, but it's obvious you are the general manager of this television station.
Let's talk about it.
We are only part way through.
This is the senate vote.
It has to be approved by the house.
But in terms of Arizona, what would the impact of this rescission be?
>> The impact is quite.
25 stayings receive C P.B.
funding in Arizona, two are television stations, rest are radio, NPr.
Community radio and tribal radio stations throughout the State.
>>> And how, like, for example, this station how much are relooking at a TV station like this?
>> About $2.3 million per year, which is around 13% of our budget so it's a very significant cut.
>> Now, obviously this is nothing new, whether it was going to pass or not everybody knew the vote would happen.
What steps have been about taken to prepare for this?
>> We have been preparing for awhile knowing it would come.
We are operating under a reduced budget already in anticipation that this could happen.
And much work will be done throughout the course of the year to make sure that we can keep those expenses down until we find new sources of revenue.
What does it many?
Delaying some projects that we wanted to undertake.
Buying less programming.
We pray for the program and the PBS and BBC and other sources we have to lack carefully about which programs we choose to purchase.
>> And have we seen some of that already?
Or are these, for example, if they are programs that will not be reviewed because of the cost associated with it.
Have we seen some of those already come to an end or are these things that will happen in the future?
>> It will happen more in the future though we have seen at the national level delays of new programs that were being rolled out by PBS.
And some of the other providers and that is all in anticipation that this could happen and now it does appear to be coming to reality.
>> You mentioned the fact that there were a number of stations both radio and television around the country -- around the State that are being affected by this.
Give -- do you have any information about how it's going to affect those smaller stations in particular?
>> The smaller stations are going to be hit much harder.
You know, as I said it's about 13 pearls of our budget.
Smaller stations it could be 40, 50, even 60% of the budget.
And those are by definition in small communities.
So they don't have a large membership base like we have.
That they can go back to and ask for more support.
So I am afraid to say we'll see a lot of those just go by the wayside.
>> This is funding for something called the corporation for public broadcasting.
And I am sure people their that all the time.
But they probably don't understand, you know, its history, why it exists, and what it is, can you give us background and explain what is the corporation for public broadcasting.
>> Sure.
Regular viewers see it at the start of almost everybody program on PBS, but it was set enough 1967, in the public broadcasting app, as a way to fund public media public broadcasting by congress and it was set up as a private corporation specifically to take it out of politics, obviously, it's been very much sucked back into politics lately.
It was also, what was unique, was, it was set up as an advanced appropriation.
The funding we get is two years in advance of was what being approved in the current budget man money that is going to be resined was approved in the last congress and we were due to be paid this year and next area that's the mon this will disappear.
>> Chicago we are refer to go is as a he since, taking the money back.
>> Right.
>> Overtime the money has been reduced coming from congress, correct?
>> It's goes up and down question make a request for certain money and usually the full request isn't granted you have seen if you go for the 56 years actually how many years it's been funded its risen significantly over that time.
This is the first time it's ever been not only have a major but completely gone in this case.
>> We should mention this is a significant there are other important things that have been funded in the past that comes to an end.
Can you seek that in.
>> More than eight billion 9 billion is foreign aid for programs over he's which is a method for the U.S. to exert soft power and provided a medical aid, food aid and that's also things being cut.
>> It's not just what's going on with public broadcasting it's that as well.
>> That's correct.
>> I guess the bigger question becomes how or should public television stations what I think that we are doing in light of what's going on on at a national level.
>> We continue have any chase we have to feigned new sources of funding.
Goes beyond the programming.
I good 20% of our staff is working around the State on education outreach efforts, working with families and teachers and children.
To take the place of other programs.
That just don't exist in air.
So those are things that have been federally funded in a lot cases and with some local funds as well, state funds but we'll have to find other funding to continue to do that sort of work.
>> As we talked about at the beginning of this, this is just the accept at vote.
There is still the house vote.
Is there any expectation that the house would do something different that what the senate has done in terms of making this rescission?
>> There is a possibility.
I mean, last time when it came through the house the first time, the -- it was passed by margin of only one vote.
It's possible that we could find other people to come to the other side to vote no.
And retain the funning.
But I would say, probably not likely given the tenor in Washington right now.
Hopeful news looking forward to give some level of hope to our viewers this was for the advanced funding as I said.
The funding for the current fiscal year starts the battle follow that starts in the fall for the October 1st budget which is never done by October 1st.
We'll try again at that point to get the funding put into the new budget.
And so that we are currently funded instead of advanced funded.
So we don't know if our efforts will pay off but we were certainly going to try.
>> Battles will continue regarding this.
>> They will.
>> And I guess going back to, you know, talking about the impact here.
Realistically, you are still going to have program on this air.
What changes?
What would people at home see differently?
>> I think on the air you'll see fewer episodes per season.
More reruns.
You'll see a longer time between seasons think you know, a popular show like "all creep is great and small" instead of coming out once a year neighbor it will be every year and a half, two years, those are the things you'll see overtime the notch Ned lay overtime.
So many other things you will not see.
The public safety infrastructure that we maintain across the State is funded in large part by C P.B.
We have to find ways to keep it going and so we have broke text the State from lesion like the wildfires that are happening right now.
>> All right, thanks again for being here, Scott, who is the general manager of KAEF and the parent company of "Arizona Horizon."
Thanks for being here.
>> Thank you.
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♪ Music Playing ♪ >> There was one a time in Americans didn't nope much about or even care about the global supply chain.
Then the pandemic hit and people realized the supply chain has a huge impact on not just what we can buy, but how much it will cost.
Now, there is something called the logistics managers index, that takes a look at the global supply chain every month to analyze changes based on a series of different metrics.
With potential tariffs in the work the supply chain could be an indicator of how they impact our pocketbook.
Tell us more about how the global supply chain is doing, well with him come back Dale Rodgers a professor at AZ's W.P.
Carey school of business, we are talking about the June edition of this index.
Before we talk too much about what it's saying, what do you use, how do you look at the global supply complain and figure that out.
>> You know, the economic indicators most economists look at, is GDP.
Gross domestic product.
And that's kind of like accounting at the end of the month into the quarter into the year.
It's a lagging indicator.
It tells you what already happened.
What we want to do is look ahead three months, two, three months is really the sort of the visibility that we have.
If you look at, we have eight logistics components, inventory, related transportation and warehousing.
And if you can, you know, because before something goes in GDP.
It goes on a truck, it goes on a boat, it goes in a warehouse.
It's part of somebody's inventories.
So we can sort of see ahead of time what is going to happen in a couple of months.
>> And how do you get those numbers?
How do you look into those warehouses and find that out?
>> It's sort of crowdsourcing.
We talk to a lot of logistics managers in the United States.
So director level and above and honestly, it's been surprising to me and I am the one that started.
Do I it with four younger faculty from around the country, the main author being the younger doctor Rodgers who is aSU alum and grew up at my house at Colorado state now.
And it's been remarkably accurate.
Federal reserves uses it.
>> How long have you been doing this index?
>> September of 20 is I 16 was the first one.
>> When we went throughout the pandemic did you see all the troubles come something.
>> Yeah.
>> You could see that?
>> Yeah.
The only time we can't see the future was March and April of 2020.
Because we didn't know.
We have seen every change both before and after that.
So, yes.
>> So what is the index telling you this year?
The most recent numbers are June.
But we've also got the previous six months before that.
What is it telling new.
>> It comes out the first Tuesday of every month.
We are not fa far away property July 1 coming out on August, whatever the first Tuesday is.
I think the headline from May and June is that upstream in the supply chain, we are seeing people hold a bunch of inventory, up stream means suppliers and supplier's fliers and so on back.
And then also, we are seeing increase inventory costs.
So I am not surprised the fact that inflation tick I'm bit.
Truthfully the stock market doesn't think the tariffs are a big deal but we think they'll start biting end of August, end of September, we are going to start seeing as we move into the fall, those tariffs by the because we can see that costs of inventory are increasing, increase dramatically during May and June and that takes a while to sort of wind its way through the supply chain.
>> Are people changing inventory as a result of the uncertainty.
Are they shrinking or increasing?
>> What's interesting is, as with many things in life the rich get richer and the poor get poorer the large retailers and so on, the guy downstream in the supply chain, right before the consumer, are pushing a ton of inventory on to their suppliers and the other thing that they are doing in terms of increased costs, they may be eating a little bit of those tariff costs.
But they are making suppliers eat a bunch it.
>> Really?
>> Yeah.
>> How have you seen the numbers changes from January to June?
Has it been stead any.
>> There was real excitement about the coming of the trump administration, nervousness about tariffs but the thought was, okay, we'll see a lot less regulation and we had great years under President Biden edge.
We had tariffs under trump but they were not too terrible.
I mean, it did it if make things cost more.
What you never want to do is Put increased costs upstream.
Steel, aluminum.
The new Mexico tariffs talked about last week, going on in beginning of August that will create a much higher food bills from Arizonans because we got a lot of produce from Mexico.
>> These are the theoretical philosophical high-level stuff.
Is there something that people should do down on the street level.
Should she save more, expense more, buyer things early what do you think regular people should do.
>> I tell you what the consumers of our index are, the media truthfully.
A lot of the investment banks using it to determine where should they make investments.
It's the federal reserve that looks at it as an indicator to, you know, they are supposed to manage both employment and, you know, 2% inflation.
And it's pretty clear if you look at what we are seeing, that inflation is going to increase as we move into the fall.
There is lots of people that are making decisions using it.
I don't know that consumers are necessarily aware of it.
But what they should know is that costs are likely to increase.
>> Inflation likely.
All right, Dale Rodgers we appreciate the fact that you are looking at the global supply chain and thanks for being here with us today.
>> Nice to be with you.
>> Thank you.
>> This summer's biggest page-turning hits are bringing about ways to escape into new literary worlds while also escaping from the Arizona heat.
We want to welcome back Cindy Dach the co owner of changing hands bookstore to talk about books that should be on your summer reading list.
Thank you for being here.
We appreciate it.
There are four books that we have starting with the first one called "colored television."
Explain what it's about.
It's not about what we traditionally think of as color television.
>> It's a play on words.
I had to bring something new in paper back that one just came out in paper back this week, it's been eight for you awhile.
I love this book.
It's -- the protagonist is a novelist trying break out their literary career and gets involved in writing television but they have to write or represent race in a comedy, in a TV show and, you know, it starts questioning what is my role and what am I representing into this funny and thoughtful.
>> I was going say, you know, I found a quote from the LA times saying a laugh out loud cultural comedy.
And this time of the year it's nice to have something nice summer reading that, I mean, went some, you know, some meaning but we also want a little bit of lightness to get us through the summer.
>> We do.
And I think it's so important to laugh out loud while we are also thinking about cultural moments.
>> As somebody who has written before or a newcomer?
>> She's written before and happens to be married to per suggest he have residence who wrote James the big book of last year.
>> Once again called "colored television" it's a fun book and nice enjoyable summer read.
Airplane book or beach book in.
>> Both of course.
>> Okay.
Sounds good.
Next up, we have a book called the bewitching by Sylvia Moreno Garcia.
And it's about three women in different areas encountering danger and witchcraft a multigenerational book.
Explain more about this.
>> Horror strangely enough is very trendy.
This is not the horror I grew one where it's blood and see there are knives.
Horror today is more supernatural and a more twist of a thought.
So there is a lot more folklore, spirits.
It's the 1800s, 1930s and present day.
And just how we managed the spirits of that might be working against us, so it's a page Turner, it keeps you gripped.
It keeps you inside the air-conditioning.
Because you need to read every page of this boom.
>> So let's go back to the concept of what we think of as traditional horror, blood and Gore.
And your point is that if you are the kind of person that avoids blood and Gore because that genre, you can read this?
>> You can absolutely read it.
Horror is just totally different today and it's a little bit more psychological.
And a little bit more spirit than there is somebody outside side your window what are that duck being about multi generation will the book.
>> It's multi generation it takes place in Mexico, Massachusetts, and a current place as well.
I don't want to give that away just yet.
And it's there is feminism throughout.
Different meanings of different time periods.
So that's where there is sort of the femininity to it in spirits of the book.
>> All right.
So looking forward to that wonderful the next book that's coming up, is really, you know, these last two books, one say horror strong rah, the other is a book about a fun summer book.
The third book is probably the deepest book of the three that we are going to talk about.
It's called "hope dies last."
The author is a gentlemen by the familiar of Allen Weismann, who is also the author I've book called "the world without us" He's an environmental journalist.
And it's interesting in this particular book he's lacking at the state of the world from an environmental perspective.
Let's talk about the meaning of this bam and is this one of the books that going to depress us?
>> That's why I brought this book.
I love this book.
I love this author.
I believe he has been on this show as well.
What he has done in this book because the world without us is what happens to the climate if people disappear, amazing book came out over a decade ago.
This book he goes out and investigates people who are actually doing actions that are reducing the climate change, so I actually found this book to be about so much hope because you actually see people doing things that are having a good reaction to what is going on.
>> Interesting the title kind of makes it seem like hope dies but once again as you were saying it's the case of hope dies last.
The fact that there are these people out there working and she haven't given up and there is hope from an environment the perspective and looking at what they are talking about it's not just climate change it's about how warfare is impacting the environment remember a long variety of things take billion dollar in the boom.
It's called hope dies last the author is Allen Weismann an environmental journalist and I remember the world without us, it was a really interesting take.
All right.
Now I have to tell you, at the beginning of this, this my favorite book so far gone by Jess Walter I have only read the synopsis of it.
I am a big fan of a Karl who rights great mysteries.
With quirky characters and this sounded just like his kind of book, describe what it's about.
>> It's similar, I have read almost everything Jess walters has I didn't know and he picks these seem semi hardtop ice and quick I people and makes you laugh out loud.
He's an environmental journalist.
Gets into a fight with his son-in-law, punches him in the face -- >> The main character of the book.
>> Yes.
the main character.
It's not written in the book it happens right away.
Over police cat disagreements, and he goes off to live off the grid and his grandchildren show up on his porch and it becomes this kind of comedy, you know, where do you help people who you disagree with?
How do you live off the grid and be a family person?
It's quickie, it is funny.
Every character is more ridiculous than the other.
And yet they are all centered in this humanity.
>> There is a mystery at the center of this?
A missing person who has gone missing.
>> Uh-huh.
>> In this by being and then a bit of action as well, correct?
>> There is lots of action.
There is -- I don't think give it away when I say there is a shootout at some point.
Which is both horrible and funny at the same time.
And I don't know if I have ever said that before about a book.
>> So for people like me who have never read Jess Walter if I like this book what else should I read of his?
What other types of books does he have out there.
>> One of his first books was the financial lives of poets and as you can just imagine, very funny book and it was definitely one of my favorites.
He's won awards for a lot of his books, he's just a -- he's also a book seller favorite.
He's so kind to book sellers think he loves independent book stores.
>> Which is the main reason he would like changing hands and you would like him as well.
>> Absolutely.
>> Once again, thank you for being here today and thank you for bringing four books, I don't know if I'll get through all four of them through the course of the summer we haven't got a lot lost summer left but this Jess Walter book so far gone is up my alley.
I really appreciate your time, thanks for be here today.
>> Thank you.
>> That will do it for they us edition of "Arizona Horizon", Ted Simon should be be back tomorrow.
I am Rick debruhl, I look forward to seeing you somewhere else later this week.
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